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Txfuzz
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 05:18 pm: |
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This may be a stupid question...but the price difference between stock and race parts can't be that great...Buell should put the race rear shock, race fairing, chain set up ect...on the stock bike to begin with!?!? Don't get me wrong...I love my 1125R, and will buy another one or whatever Buell brings out to replace it...but really, just make a bike that has all the goodies we like to begin with |
Jdugger
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 05:23 pm: |
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A couple of reasons: 1. Race suspension is almost universally unsuitable for street, and would make the bike really unpleasant for most riders. 2. Race motor and power train parts will often make the bike fail emissions and noise laws for motor vehicles. 3. Many race components offer higher performance at the expense of lower reliability. 4. Many race parts are also much more expensive. I'm sure there are more reasons. |
Murraebueller
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 05:29 pm: |
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think EPA/DOT |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 06:11 pm: |
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PUtting race parts on a stock bike would be appealing to a very small demographic and would be a disservice to the vast majority. It would be neat to see Buell have an "S" version where those that desire can order a bike with all the goodies! |
Eboos
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 06:21 pm: |
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You wouldn't want race suspension, ergonomics or geometry on a street bike. Trust me. My bike feels down right funky when I am just riding around in the pits. Also, the belt setup instead of the chain makes the bikes better on the street. Less maintenance, quieter and much cleaner then a chain setup. The only reason to switch to a chain for racing bikes is to be able to change gear ratios. |
Teach
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 06:45 pm: |
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Maybe the "S" version will come from a dealer? |
Txfuzz
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 07:00 pm: |
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I guess I will eventually turn my 08 into a track bike and get what is new in 2012...if the world hasn't come to an end hahaha!! |
Amrra12
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:31 pm: |
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Here is why! they make mo money! this is my race bike and it's got about 10k in race parts on it! if buell but that on the bike {stock} they could only ask 5k more! HAHA
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Bearly
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:39 pm: |
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I'd buy the "S" model. I love my 08 #142 though! |
Slypiranna
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:44 pm: |
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SMOKIN' COOL! They rest get back to school! LOL! Sweet effort Amrra12! Best wishes on your success with this 11! |
Txfuzz
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:46 pm: |
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Man that looks good, there has to be a something that buell can do that in between its current stock and a full race bike...my bet is that is what is coming in the next few years. |
Slypiranna
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:49 pm: |
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Txfuzz, Most squids won't even buy a stock 08 11 @ stupid low prices... They only bitch about why they can't be had cheaper. Then a few bitch that they paid too much! LOL! Go figure. After the 08 release and what we've seen herein...I wouldn't include one red cent with a stocker @ sticker! LOL! NOR WOULD I TRADE MINE! HAAAAAAAAAAA! Go back to kicking tires wannabeowners... Step up OR SHUT UP? Seems logical. |
Amrra12
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:53 pm: |
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Sly, thanks man i took the championship this year on that bike! |
Geforce
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 10:06 pm: |
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Amrra12... that is one sweet lookin race rig. The colors are great! Man, good job on winning as well! |
Dirty_john
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 02:17 am: |
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Ammra12 - nice bike, well done from here in the UK |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 07:58 am: |
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Think PRICE. Motorcycles are HUGELY sensitive to price. Try selling an 1125R at $19,000 . . . tough sell. Buell is excelling at offering a great compliment of readily available race parts to allow folks to do whatever they want. Everyone wins. |
T_man
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 08:19 am: |
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In all honesty I believe if Buell simply released it looking exactly the same as the 1125R pace/saftey bike they'd sell them by the boat load. I know we can buy the lowers (I have a set) and I know some of us appreciate the individuality of the current pods. But from a purely business point of view I think Buell missed (and is currently missing) the mark by not releasing the 1125R in that guise. Either way, I love the bike and have made it 'my own' anyways. It just seems a shame that this great American sportbike is missing the sales that 'could be' due to small aesthetic adjustment. Sorry; wrong thread... I guess its still a little relevant here though! (Message edited by T_Man on October 07, 2009) |
Garrett2
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 06:23 pm: |
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but 1125s dont come on a boat |
Hellgate
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 09:34 pm: |
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"but 1125s dont come on a boat" In Europe they do. |
Garrett2
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 06:53 am: |
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damn me for that good call, i was being an ignorant american ps - usa #1 |
T_man
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 08:20 am: |
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Sorry I brought up the whole 'boat' issue! PS. Its virtually winter here up in Canada and it SUCKS! |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 11:53 am: |
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I hear ya T-man. 30*F and flurries, today's my "Saturday". No riding today.... Z |
Buellishxx
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 12:39 pm: |
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As much as I like my Buells (http://thunderracing.ca ) they have really missed their chance to capture some of the sport bike market by letting the engineering dept look after the design of the bike. If you want to sell bikes, especially to non Buellers, you need to give them what they want, and that's a bike that looks hot / cool / sexy. I know people who buy Ducati's on looks alone. I still lust after one! With Harley buying MV I would think they could get some Italian design into the 1125, and make it a bike that turns heads for it's good looks as opposed to the situation it's in now. As mentioned above, simply selling the bike with a full fairing would help, but the outdated tail section, the pods, and the bulbous front end don't help with it's beauty issues. (I understand the engineering, aerodynamics etc.) I find the aesthetics issue strange, as Harley is the master of designing and giving their customers the style, look, and sound that they are looking for. BMW has finally seen the light with their new superbike and have got it right with the mechanicals, but still have an issue with the looks of the street bike. The race fairing looks good but the street version, "not so much". |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 12:50 pm: |
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The very things you complain about ARE the reasons I bought MY Buell. Screw it, I gonna dig out some leather and go ride anyway. Z |
01xjbuell
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 01:47 pm: |
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Come visit the east Zac, gonna be in the 60's this wknd Nick |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 02:11 pm: |
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Yeah, it's 87 in Texas at my folks, warmed up to 34 now here. Z |
Ridenusa4l
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 02:29 pm: |
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Hey guys dont feel bad it getting chilly in AZ too...its like ~70* no humidty and clear blue sunny skies hahahaha, and its only like this for all of winter hahhaa I might go for a ride, my next class isnt till 5pm....hmm Jake |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 02:31 pm: |
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Hey guys dont feel bad it getting chilly in AZ too...its like ~70* no humidty and clear blue sunny skies hahahaha, and its only like this for all of winter hahhaa There has to be some benefit for surviving the summer. |
Ridenusa4l
| Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 02:49 pm: |
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+ 100* fresno, it gets a little warm lol, but i ride YEAR ROUND through the heat and the "cold" always in gear..its actually cooler for me to ride with my jacket on in the summer time, because i dont get the wind burn then , but the leather pants are for special occansions in the summer, those in traffic are HELL!!! lol Jake |
Amrra12
| Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 01:28 pm: |
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guys dont feel bad it getting chilly in AZ too...its like ~70* no humidty and clear blue sunny skies hahahaha, and its only like this for all of winter hahhaa I might go for a ride, my next class isnt till 5pm....hmm Jake Sooo how was the riding in june, july August and September when it was 118 out?? |