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Crazyoldman
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 10:25 am: | 
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Court, what else can I do other than contact one of the news channels with a problem solver. I believe Buell is responsible. What constructive advice do you have, other than what I've stated????????? |
Frostymug
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 11:13 am: |
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Here’s the way I see it. Buell’s designed an aluminum swing arm fitted with a steel plug without enough thread surface to handle the torque specification they have listed in the manual. They have lowered the torque setting once before but in my opinion it is too high. They are refusing to acknowledge there is still a problem.
I’ve read of Buell owners who have discovered oil leaking from the plug, I believe it’s caused from previous oil changes where HD technicians are inadvertently over tightening thus over time the aluminum threads simply loose the battle as they should.
Yes, this should not happen *if* they are using torque wrenches. I was.
(Message edited by frostymug on September 11, 2008) |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 03:30 pm: |
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I use thicker o-rings for my plugs. It makes the torque spec a little more forgiving.
(Message edited by boltrider on January 28, 2009) |
Cletusberontwood
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 06:04 pm: |
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This is absolute bullshit.
I'm sure someone on here knows, or can at least get in some sort of contact with Eric Buell. This needs to be relayed to him. I am about to buy an XB12 and do not want to have to deal with this type of garbage.
FIX THE MANUAL BUELL!
(Message edited by cletusberontwood on February 17, 2009) |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 06:40 pm: |
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Eric Buell likely could care less, and Erik Buell already knows.
Frustrating for sure. If you have a damaged swingarm, you should start with your dealer and proceed from there. You will have better luck with a calm but firm and reasoned approach.
If it were me, and my dealer offered to make it right with a timsert or similar professional repair, I would appreciate it and thank them.
If it were me and I was hacking it myself, I would probably tap it out one size bigger and find an alternate drain plug, I think there is a Harley part that will work.
I haven't looked on the Buell site, but a "manual errata" page on there would be a *great* idea... |
Icontender
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 07:28 pm: |
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I have just stripped my oil drain threads on my 2006 xb12ss as well. Changed the oil on the buell twice before without a problem. Changed it on my other bikes many times with no problems. However, when I removed the bolt this time it was already loose. Thank heavens the bolt didn't come out while I was riding. I use a torque wrench every time, and own the official Buell service manual. Now it looks like I can't ride until I get this fixed. This is a faulty swingarm for sure. I will contact my dealership tomorrow to see what they say. Otherwise maybe a class action lawsuit might help them fix the real issue? |
Dcmortalcoil
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 12:40 am: |
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Incorrect torque spec for oil plugs was known at least since 2005. There is a place either in the service manual or user manual that indicates the correct torque. I crossed out 29-31 ft-lbs in my 2004 service manual and marked 11-15 ft-lbs. |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 07:02 am: |
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>>>Otherwise maybe a class action lawsuit might help them fix the real issue?
Do you think the 4 elements required for a Section 23(a) action exist?
I've submitted this information in the past and the Harley-Davidson Technical Publications folks maintain that the Service Manual is accurate.
They report no stripped threads have been reported by dealers.
I do not know the answer and, like you, would err on the side of caution.
I'm just not seeing the elements for a Class Action Lawsuit. What is your experience with Class Action? |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:16 am: |
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Class action lawsuits benefit the lawyer, seldom the plaintifs to any meaningful degree.
In this case the idea is ludicrous. |
Berto
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 10:14 pm: |
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After reading this I sure am glad I could figure out how to change my oil without reading the manual.  |
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 04:26 pm: |
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Oil Drain Plug Torque specified by my 2009 Service Manual is 26-29 LB*FT. |
Cheddarheads4erik
| | Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:22 am: |
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Umm, wow.
My wife's 2009 Uly XT's manual said 26-29 ft/lbs for the drain plug, which is where I torqued it on the 94 mile oil change. You're ••••••• kidding me-they're still supplying owner's manuals with the wrong torque specs, 4-5 years later? AND, the Service Manuals have the SAME wrong numbers? What else in the Manual should I not trust-are any or the torque specs correct? |
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