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Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 05:09 pm: |
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Hello everyone. I'm getting close to the 12k service and I have been planning on doing it my self. While I do that, I was thinking in powder coating my frame, swing arm and rims to a black coat like the 09's. Today I was quoted 450.00 for everything. Do you guys think is reasonable? thanks! |
Lastonetherebuys
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 05:14 pm: |
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If I was looking to do that to mine I would take that price in a heart beat. Is that you stripping it down yourself? |
Clarkjw
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 06:47 pm: |
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That is VERY reasonable, even if you have to do the teardown. |
Mrcjoy8
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 10:54 am: |
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I was thinking of that ..... but this is a special edition.......... |
Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 12:24 pm: |
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Yes I would strip it down to just taking the rims, frame and swingarm. |
Hammer71
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 12:41 pm: |
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Make sure that the price quoted includes the media blasting as some dont include it in their quotes. Also find out what powder is being used and if a clear is required. If so that will bring the price up as well. PM if you have any more questions. |
Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 01:17 pm: |
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Thanks Hammer I will ask them. When I told the guy that the original finish was powder coat, he told me that maybe it was not necessary to sandblast them. Is he right or he doesn't know what he is talking about? |
Lastonetherebuys
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 01:51 pm: |
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..... but this is a special edition.......... even so it will still be a 25th anniversary special edition regardless of the color of the frame |
Ccryder
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 03:16 pm: |
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A question that has come up before on XB's. Does the frame have a coating inside that could be effected by the cure temp required for powdercoating to cure? I don't have the question but the answer needs to be determined b4 your exposed your frame/ fuel tank to 400-500 F curing temps. |
Hammer71
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 03:24 pm: |
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Original finish is NOT powdercoat and will be necessary to blast. If he has the capability have the parts chemically stripped then blasted with aluminum oxide or glass bead. Good coaters wont coat over someone else's powder work. as you have no way of knowing if the prep and adhesion was/is done correctly, if it wasnt then it can lift,crack,peel etc.. It can be done though. On the frame and swingarm ,the coating is thin and will blast off very fast if he doesnt want to use chemicals. The coating on the wheels is a pain and chemical is recommended. What color you looking into doing? |
Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 04:30 pm: |
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The same as the 09's or something very similar. Something like satin black with a bit of texture. |
No_rice
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 04:39 pm: |
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my .02 is that if you are going to do it, dont try to make it look like the 09/10's. not that they dont look good with the dullish black. but why do something thats already done. make it stand out even if its just a gloss black or something |
Ridenusa4l
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 05:13 pm: |
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+1 no rice, there's nothin like havin a one of a kind jake |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 05:23 pm: |
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I don't think I'd feel good, putting the frame thru powder-coat. Wheels and swingarm, OK. I am done resurfacing the split lacquer on Loretta. If it splits again, I'm going to have a friend shoot acrylic at it next year. I love the look of the Diamond Blue with a clear-coat and shiny so I'll probably stay close to that. Z |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 05:50 pm: |
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If the frame and swingarm is actually just painted from teh factory, then strip yours down and get the paint from the dealer and have at it. I bet it costs a lot less than $450. |
Ccryder
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 07:45 pm: |
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IIRC correctly we have a BWB member that works in the powder coating industry but, I can't remember their name. Like I mentioned above, you have to cure the powder at an elevated temp for an extended time period to cure the powder. Depending on what material and it's make-up for sealing the frame fuel compartment, the curing process make compromise the sealant and then, it's time to replace the frame. Painting has none of those issues. (hint, hint). |
Endoman33
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 08:40 pm: |
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Ccryder, ask Pete at Grandstand design his shop deals in powdercoatings |
Hammer71
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 08:58 pm: |
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Have seen a few frames coated and no reported issues. The cure schedule shouldnt exceed 375-400 degrees for approximately 20 minutes once part is up to temp. |
Slaughter
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 10:06 pm: |
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There ARE powdercoating systems that don't require the extremely high temperatures of typical process. The technology has advanced a lot in the past 50 years. http://www.xiom-corp.com for info on just one of the new types of systems but trust me, you are NOT going to be buying one of these from Harbor Freight!!! Contact Pete at Grandstand Designs, he RACES a Buell, is a Badweb Sponsor - and does machining and powdercoating so he'll know. |