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Dirty_john
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 01:13 pm: | 
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I change oil and filter every 1000 miles, oil and filters are cheap, engine rebuilds aren't, gets rid of any crap in the oil including any condensates and whislt on the ramp for the oil change it pays to look over critical fasteners and reapply copaslip to the axles etc. |
Daggar
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 01:15 pm: |
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80k miles is pretty hardcore. I'm glad I use Amsoil. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 01:55 pm: |
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Changing your oil every thousand miles likely costs about the same, both in time and money, as it would cost you if you chose to never change your oil by the time a rebuild was warranted.
I just got back from the dealer getting oil change supplies - came to $60 ($5 for a friggin washer?).
This is probably the last time I'll use Syn3 in the Buell - too many other good options out there for less coin. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 02:14 pm: |
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1000 miles? I would have to change the oil every weekend on something! |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 03:17 pm: |
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The manual also says change your filter every other oil change. Have you seen the filter after 3-4K miles? Looks horrible. I say that changing oil every 3-4K miles is cheap insurance. For most of us thats probably only 2-4 times a year. Cheap insurance. |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 03:26 pm: |
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6,000 miles *IS* twice a year. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 03:33 pm: |
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6,000 miles *IS* twice a year.
...And you know for a fact that everyone rides 12,000 miles a year? |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 03:38 pm: |
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I'm blessed with a 1.5 mile commute. Right now, I'm 2 weeks away from owning this bike for a full year, and at 5,800 currently, will be the most miles I've put on a bike in a single year, especially considering I did do likely around another 400 on the Sportster. Factor in the ice and snow we get 5 months out of the year and 12,000 in a year just isn't a possibility for me. |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 03:43 pm: |
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Did I say I was speaking for everyone? It would be four times a year, but I have two motorcycles (and I actually log more miles a year on the other one).
From what I've heard, it is more important to change the oil more frequently if the bike sits most of the time, so I guess changing the oil every thousand miles makes sense for SOME, but for people who ride frequently, it actually makes little sense.
For people like me, it's not only a waste of money, it's also a waste of time that could be better spent riding. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 03:58 pm: |
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From what I've heard, it is more important to change the oil more frequently if the bike sits most of the time, so I guess changing the oil every thousand miles makes sense for SOME, but for people who ride frequently, it actually makes little sense.
There is a time factor along with the mileage factor, however I find it very difficult to believe that a sitting bike contaminates its oil more than a ridden bike. |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 04:50 pm: |
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It's not that the oil gets contaminants from sitting, it's that the contaminants in the oil spend more time in contact with the metal engine parts. When the engine is running, moisture in the oil is heated past the boiling point and gets blown out with the exhaust gasses along with any acids from combustion by-product. The oil pump also circulates the oil so it doesn't just sit in one spot for a long period of time.
If the oil just sits there, these contaminants can attack the metals in your engine (and in the case of the 1125R, transmission).
It's why everyone I know recommends doing one final oil change before putting your bike away in the winter. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 09:29 pm: |
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Jaime is right regarding the contaminants, and more specifically moisture, in the oil just sitting on the parts. These show up in the oil from the first minute of combustion, so once you start the bike, the clock is ticking on when it should be changed.
Personally, being that I run synthetic, I ride less than 6,000 miles in a year and typically only change my oil once during the year prior to winter storage. But it may be more often now that I have more cold-weather gear. |
Dirty_john
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:17 am: |
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I wait till my local dealer has a high discount weekend and then buy 10 filters and enough oil to last the year.
In 35 years of owning and wrenching on bikes, cars etc this policy has stood me proud - I rest my case. |
Dirty_john
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:22 am: |
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Oil degradation occurs a lot more in frequent cold starts and short runs and since it is usually not that warm here in the UK so we tend to change oil and filters a lot more regularly, at least those of us who ride through the winter do. I have mate who works at Shell Research here in the UK and he agrees with my policy and does the same with his bikes. Good enough for me. |
Pizzaboy
| | Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 04:01 am: |
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($5 for a friggin washer?)
oh please!
you can buy BOTH washers from ME for $1, plus a self addressed envelope! |
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