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Palmer
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a little survey among friends of the italian board who owns a 1125 made us discover that all of our bikes are - more or less - out of liquid coolant. All the bikes are under 7k miles, and there aren't leaks at all. Is this normal?
Is it true that the bikes are shipped almost without any liquid (oil, gas, coolant) in it? maybe the dealers haven't checked the bikes?
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1_mike
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Per govt. regulations, I believe they are shipped dry (everything).

I know a couple of my past Japanese bikes (to the US) were dry.

Mike
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Rdmwc
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

palmer, i had to dissasemble my 1125r this past winter at about 6000 miles and when i removed the pods, radiators and resevoir i found that my res was completely dry and that radiator was bone dry. i also had no leaks. i dont think my dealership checked it at service.
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Palmer
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have found another discussion about this here in bwb, and statistically it seems this is a issue of this model. As above, here in Italy 5 bikes have this "dry reservoir" problem.
There are two solutions.
1) the dealer doesn't check accurately the liquid when the bike is new. Most of them are harley dealers, why should they have coolant liquid in the box?
2) the bike is "steaming" and, little by little, puff! is the problem in the junctions<' or in the reservoir and radiator caps?
Technicians of the board, need ur help!!
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are you guys seeing for coolant temps? With little or no coolant, I would expect to see VERY high temps and overheated engines.
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Marcodesade
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine wasn't DRY, but it was about 1/2 quart low.
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Rdmwc
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

normally running 'round 185 to 200. only seen over 210 about 2 times.
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Daggar
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My reservoir was empty, when I checked it a few days after buying it. Filled it up and had the dealer check it. No problems. Checked it again a couple weeks later, and it was a little low. I topped it off and haven't had to since. That was about a year ago.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

when I took delivery of my 09 1125R in Nov 08 the coolant level was the first thing I checked before riding the bike, was 10% from cold full level and has not needed topping up since

(Message edited by dirty_john on September 22, 2009)
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Frontline
Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found the reason why the radiators are dry.

The problem is the plastic casting of the reservoir bottle. There is a seem that goes down the middle of each inlet/outlet. This does not allow the tube to seal properly around the outlet and will leak fluid.

Solution I took a lighter and a file to to make the seems smooth. Also make sure you push the tubes all the way on.}
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just checked mine, bottle is bone dry.

I haven't noticed any hot temps, but I'll be adding coolant and putting some miles on it to get it burp itself out. I'm sure there's air in the system at this point.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Burp the system in the garage.

From the FSM -
start with a cold motor, bike on SIDESTAND.
Remove right side pod cover and radiator cap.
Wrap a towel around filler neck and top off radiator.
Start engine and let idle.
DO NOT REV, revving will pull air into system and you MUST start over.
As bubbles come out and level drops, keep topped off.
Continue until no bubbles.
Shut off engine, let cool.

Top off radiator, re-install cap.
Top off overflow bottle and button up.
Go for a ride, you earned it.

Zack
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Turns out the radiator was pretty much full - maybe 1/4" below the cap, so I just topped that off and filled the tank to the cold mark.

A little annoying, but the sight glass still looks white to me even after filling.
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Daggar
Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've found my sight glass to be pretty useless. I just take the pod cover off when I'm doing maintenance.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes I agree the sight glass is not worth having, there are only 6 fasteners holding the RHS cover on and you can get them out in a couple of minutes, I check the coolant level every week but it hasn't needed any since first picking the bike up.
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