| Author | Message | ||
     Tbenson |
I had my back tire try to step out on a hard right curve, due to some gravel, and the recovery was quick and effortless! I have been away from this style of riding for sometime, by no means would I consider myself as a good rider before or now, but the 1125R has displayed itself as a well mannered machine. Despite the issues in other areas (for me), this bike handles very well through the curves, high speeds, and just normal conditions. I am not one who has ever worn the proper attire for aggressive riding, so I only push the limits so far. The roads around me, that I normally ride, always have surprises from day to day, so that hampers pushing the limits also, or maybe I just don't have the skills or balls to push this bike as hard as I could? | ||
| Tbenson |
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOHHB3Ntsag www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtjQ4SK4GXk&feature=relate d Now that is a save! Not this time! www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxx4yQdZGJQ&feature=relate d www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmtoOmq3ppw&feature=relate d | ||
| Badlionsfan |
I didn't think I was riding all that aggressive when I had my 45 mph low side. proper riding gear allowed me to ride her home with out a single scratch (on me anyway) with the busted mirror bungee corded to the fairing vs me in the meat wagon with a famous Ohio "failure to control ticket" in my pocket and the bike on a flat bed wrecker back to the house. Something to consider.... | ||
| Tbenson |
Yea I know, I have been grilled by many people, I guess I am just ignorant or to stubborn. I wrecked at Mohican Hills in 1996 on my ZX7R road racing, wearing shorts, tee shirt, and helmet (usually not wearing a helmet), I know pretty stupid, and came out with only a burn and pride damage. Maybe I would have learned my lesson if it was more severe, probably not though? I have been considering getting some gear though, I know considering does not help! When the tire stepped out on the 1125, it truly has woke me up a little, probably due to getting older!  | ||
| Dirty_john |
get the right gear friend or maybe next time you wont be so lucky | ||
| Xodot |
...probably due to "getting older"! Let's do a lot more of that my friend!  X | ||
| Tbenson |
Point well taken!!! | ||
| Lastonetherebuys |
I cant seem to wrap my head around it when I see ppl out on their bikes in shorts and a t-shirt. I have been on all sorts of bikes since I was about 7, and just the other day was the first time I desided to take my 1125 out in shorts (first time on any type of bike). I got about 6 blocks from home when I turned around and went back home to put on my proper riding gear. It made me about 45 min late for where i was supposed to be but I made it there | ||
| Jpowell490 |
<---Guilty, I do that quite often, not so much as of late. I have been riding since I was 4 almost daily so I am very comfortable. Does that mean it will never happen? not by any means, it can happen to anyone. But unless you are in full leathers, blue jeans and a shirt or jacket, is not going to do much more for you than the short with nothing. Too dang hot down here to wear that gear in the summer. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
vI do that quite often, not so much as of late. I have been riding since I was 4 almost daily so I am very comfortable. Does that mean it will never happen? not by any means, it can happen to anyone. But unless you are in full leathers, blue jeans and a shirt or jacket, is not going to do much more for you than the short with nothing. Too dang hot down here to wear that gear in the summer. Nice justification. When does wearing gear equate to full leathers? Kevlar jeans, armored mesh jacket & riding boots/shoes are a good compromise in hot climates. YOu do wear gloves don't you? | ||
| Rainman |
Mesh overpants, mesh jacket, mesh gloves....it still gets hot at stoplights, but at least there's padding at the elbows and knees and something designed to reduce road rash. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
As has been previously noted, I am a firm believer in SOGSOT (Some Of the Gear, Some Of the Time) Not as good as ATGATT, but when it's your primary transportation, and it 100 deg w/ 85% humidity and you're on your way to work, Sometimes you have to make concessions. Is it a good idea? No. But that's how life is, sometimes. Now as soon as it cools off, and gets down in the 40-60's, I'm in leather, gloves, etc. But sometimes it's just too damned hot. R | ||
| Jpowell490 |
+1 Carbon, right there with you. Fresno, down boy. If you like sweating your stones off and you are happy with that, go for it. Not me, if you wreck that bad on 2 wheels nothing is going to help you, so think about that. I equate this to motorcycle insurance, my wife wanted to put FULL FULL coverage on my bikes in the past. I mean if the damn thing got a scratch it was covered, however it was expensive. I told her, if I wreck that bad to need all that, the motorcycle will be the least of the worries. I think gear fits into that category, I don't care if you have a kevlar nutsack on, you are a goner if you wreck that bad. | ||
| Daggar |
I'm with Fresno. Sweat is a lot easier to remove than road rash. I have an Olympia Phantom suit that I wear, even if it's 100 degrees outside. Gets hot at stops, but well worth it to me. I'd really like to get a mesh suit from Motoport. Supposed to be cooler than shorts and a t-shirt. I just need to find a buyer for one of my kidneys... | ||
| Rainman |
OK, sometimes I go with jeans when it's REALLY hot, but it's gotten so I feel safer with the mesh overpants, especially when I have to wear slacks. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Too hot is a bs excuse, too many options out there. I crash tested the Cortech HRX series 2 pants. I was wearing shorts under the mesh, wind/ rain liner wasn't in it. Here's the damage to the pants, still very wearable--     The Buell mesh jacket held up well enough to do it's job, and is still wearable too. I do plan to replace it with the cortech hrx jacket next year tho, I like the shoulder (where I landed) design better of the cortech. Here's the Buell mesh jacket pics--   | ||
| Froggy |
My 3 bikes are my transportation. Car has only gotten used this summer for hauling crap as I was helping a friend move from NY to Boston. Anyway, Aerostitch Roadcrafter 1 piece, I have personally tested it in 25 degrees F all the way to 125 degrees F. Rain or shine, sleet or snow. It does great. I have put at least 40k miles on it, crashed in it and every thing. I love that suit. | ||
| Dentguy |
blue jeans and a shirt or jacket, is not going to do much more for you than the short with nothing. I can tell you from experience that jeans and a jacket along with boots and gloves will do much more than just shorts. When I hit a deer doing about 60 that is what I was wearing. If I wasn't wearing the jacket (Vanson with pads and back armor), I wouldn't have an elbow along with most of my outer left arm. If I hadn't been wearing gloves (Alpinestars), I wouldn't have much left for hands since it burned through the kevlar and leather. If I wasn't wearing boots (well I did break my foot in a few places), who knows as the bike came down on it. As for the jeans, luckily I didn't slide on my knees, but I did burn plenty of holes in them and ground down the Buell key in my pocket. Didn't tear off any skin, even though it tore up the jeans a little, but I did get plenty of rash just from the impact. Don't even want to think about only having shorts on. I don't want to tell anyone what to wear, it's your skin and your decision, wear what you want. I just think sweat and stink is much more comfortable than a skin graft. (Message edited by dentguy on September 15, 2009) | ||
| 72sbc |
you guys are funny, not everyone has the budget for 500+ set of full leathers and riding boots. If you do great, if not oh well, do you guys preach your AGATT stuff to dirt bike riders too? most of the people i see wearing full leathers are bmw riders on there sport tour bikes that ride down to the coffe shop, or the teenager on the crashed liter bike, with a flat spot in there tires from going straight all the time. 99% of the time its overkill, and you look like a retard wearing that stuff, full leathers going down a city street to go to a book store or some other yuppie place. if you feel you need to wear all that to enjoy your motorcycle then more power to you, but its not for me. Riding a motorcycle is always a risk, but i dont feel i need to wear all that to enjoy it. | ||
| Froggy |
I have not laughed so hard at a post on here in months! 1, you can afford a $12000 motorcycle but can't afford to buy gear? You can get fully equipped for $500, and thats buying all new gear. Gmax GM68S Helmet $100, Frank Thomas 1 piece leather $299, Alpinestar gloves $35, No-name brand riding boots $100. If you get used gear / hand me downs you can save even more. My cousin is wearing a jacket that I started riding in, and I got it from a friend of mine who got too fat and cant wear it anymore. Everyone I know that does off roading has appropriate gear for that too including chest protectors. 2, Most of the people I see on BMWs tend to be wearing Aerostitch textile suits, while most crashed squids are wearing nothing of protective value. Busas crusing in Connecticut with the helmet strapped on to the helmet lock. 3, 0% of the time its overkill. If you know when and where you will be involved in an accident, like say a drunk driver on the wrong side of the highway, or a deer that jumps out, then you must have ESP and can make a serious killing working for the government. As for looking retarded, I disagree. This looks retarded:  Going back to the cost argument, $500 in gear, or $50,000+ in medical bills when someone has to clean up your mess due to stupidity? Anyway, whatever floats your boat, if you don't wear gear, don't ride with me. I have left groups before when people started showing up looking like they were at the beach. | ||
| Chadhargis |
As an MSF instructor, I've heard every excuse in the book. I've had people tell me that they'd rather die not wearing a helmet than be in a wheelchair from a broken neck. I've had them tell me they would rather take the risk of getting road rash, than guarantee they sweat their butt off wearing all that gear. I learned a long time ago that Darwin has a way of weeding people out. Even those wearing full gear, if they are doing 140mph down a public street on the back wheel are likely to be thinned from the gene pool. I always end my pitch for wearing full gear by saying, "If you KNEW you were going to crash, would you wear the gear?" Then I ask, "How do you know you aren't going to crash the next time you ride?" None of us know when our time to go down is coming. I've been down a few times already, and I fully expect to meet the pavement again. I dress accordingly. | ||
| 72sbc |
as for showing up in flip flops and a wife beater yeah, i agree, but as for needing to look like a AMA pro rider cruising down the street? No thanks. Like i said you want to wear all that stuff cool, but don't push it on other people, its like religion, everyone has there own.  | ||
| J2blue |
Chad taught me. Less than a month after taking his class I went down hard with almost all gear on. It was a 30mph concrete dive with my face firmly planted to inspect the grooving in the surface. I wasn't wearing protective pants and my worst injury was the big red berry on my knee. My head was fine and I was a little bit sore, but otherwise ok. Without the full face helmet I'd most likely be dead. I forced myself to get back on the bike despite being scared sans fecal matter. I also made every effort to learn from the incident that I could. Near death experiences have a way of underscoring points to safe riding. I was glad mine came so soon! | ||
| Froggy |
You don't need to look like a racer, you can look like whatever you want. You can buy a Batman replica suit: http://www.universaldesigns.ca/UDR/store/TDK/TDK.h tml Suits come in all kinds of shapes and colors, they even make reinforced jeans now. http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-jeans/joe-r ocket-steel-sliders-jeans.htm | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
OMG that batman suit is freakin AWESOME!! now if they made a helmet to match.... lol  and the 1125r is the perfect candidate, even though they used an MV, itll work  , if only i had the money ahahaha Jake | ||
| Ratgin |
About 20 years ago i rode into work. First call of the shift was a double bike fatal. Second call of the shift was another bike fatal. After 3 fatals involving only two bikes in the space of once 10 hour shift i was quickly converted to ATGATT. Much like a parachute, there's no guarantee it will work when you need it but it sure as hell betters the odds when jumping from the plane. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Who said anything about full leather. My pants go for around $200, jacket was $150, gloves $40, boots were an eBay buy, don't remember the price. I didn't buy all at once, acquired over time. | ||
| Bri |
Froggy, looked up the picture you posted and found this. http://sportbike.natkd.com/road_rash.htm http://www.rockyriverwings.com/Ridinggear.htm http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2009/08/03/local _news/news03.txt | ||
| Court |
Three fatals near my house the week before last. All kids without gear. Nice shrine with candles and photos. I printed "IDIOT" on an 8" x 10" cardboard and stuck it between the candles. All 3 would have walked away with gear. Riding without gear is attempted suicide. | ||
| Xodot |
Like i said you want to wear all that stuff cool, but don't push it on other people, its like religion, everyone has there own. Fair enough, but you might want to make both decisions as if you were looking out the window of your hospital room. Each day on earth is a gift - I don't want to send any gifts back unopened. But heck, that's just me - your philosophy may vary  |
