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Pwest
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A few weeks ago I got some Nology Hotwires, Buell B12P spark plugs and a IMC for my M2.I went on two short rides with no problems, well last week while out riding the bike just died on me. This was after a long stop for lunch, after 5min or so it started up but then died again a few miles down the road. The whole way home on the highway it would die but I could pop it back to life. I checked the plugs but they looked good but I put the old ones back any way, no luck. I changed the plug wires back, no luck. Iput the old IMC back, still died. Some times it will backfire then run good for a while so I think its getting gas but not a good spark. What do you all think?...

PATO2M2...
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Buelliedan
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sidestand safety switch??
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What da hell is a IMC?
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Pwest
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do I bypas the kick stand safty switch?

ICM,Ignition module control. Or ECM.

PAT....
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>>>>How do I bypas the kick stand safty switch?
A jumper wire or strip both wires and solder em together.
You might wanna check the fuel delivery system and the fuel tank vent lines.
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Pwest
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is no kinks in the vent lines that I can see. It will die while at idle as well (not in gear) so in not sure its the kickstand safety switch ether.

PAT
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There may not be a kink in the vent line but the vent valve itself could be faulty.
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Jst
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nology wires are known short circuits. Try you old plugs wires for a nice long ride. I had a sportster riding buddy who put them on his bike the wires arced to his leg. Make sure the ground wire is connected very well.

I have a jumpered connector for the side stand switch if you need it.
JT

BTW: most people call it an ignition module.
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Kelly
Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My vent went bad with no warning. I took it out, drilled through it and now I wont have to worry about it again.
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Pwest
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there only the one vent on the top of the tank and how do you get the vent off?

PAT..
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Kelly
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://members.cox.net/bikepage/tankvent

http://members.cox.net/bikepage/tankvent02

I scanned the two pages in the service manual that cover the tank vent. It's easy. Take off the vent hose, open the gas cap, put a rag or some hose over he vent on top of the tank, stick your fingers in the tank to grab the vent assembly, turn the top part with pliers CCW.

When putting it back together, you may need to turn the vent assembly to get it lined up correctly and torqued to 40-60 in/lbs.
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Kelly
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The pics are REALLY big, so I'd right click on them and save them to your hard drive for easier viewing since internet explorer may change the size to fit your screen.
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Hans
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pwest: Pull the rubber hose from the vent valve and try to blow through the nipple. Yes, with your mouth. You will notice if the valve is sticking. In that case blow it open with, for instance, a tire pump. Very short burst is enough. That valve has the tendency to stick after tipping the bike over and also after filling the tank with gas higher than the warning on the tank indicates. (1 inch below the rubber squirt.) The advantage is that the tanks looses not one single drop when tipped over.
Hans
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Kelly
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Even after I tried to clear it with compressed air, it still wouldnt open.
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Mikej
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you able to remove the elbow from the tank fitting? If so then see if the checkball rattles inside, if not then maybe try to gently dislodge it with some small object.
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Hans
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kelly: Are you sure it did not open up? The hole is small and the air flow will be rather constricted when open.
Hans.
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Kelly
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope, it never opened up. I blew it out, test rode it and it died. Once I drilled it out, I havent had a problem.
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Ironheadjay
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dosen't the speedo senser cause the same problems when it goes bad?
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Mikej
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope, when the speedo sensor goes bad it just affects the speedometer, at least that's all that happened on the few that went bad on my M2.
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Pwest
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kelly. when the check valve went bad did the bike run good for a while then die or would it not run at all? Mine runs great and then out of the blue it would die, no coughing or sputtering just one second its good the next its dead.
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Kelly
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It would run for a few miles and then start to act like its running out of gas.

If yours isnt doing this, you can stick a safety pin through the two wires in the sidestand switch. This will bypass it and if the bike is trouble free after that, then you know your switch is bad.

After I bypassed these two "safety" items, I havent had a problem.
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Kelly
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pat,

Did you get it sorted out yet?

Kelly
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Pwest
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kelly

Well no but I think im getting some where. I went on a couple rides with no problems then today while it was worming up it died and wouldnt start back up. I took a extra spark plug and put the wire from the rear cylinder put in the plug and tried to get a spark on the head, no spark. I got one with the front cylinder plug. I switched the wires on the coil and then it worked, for now. I think it might be a bad coil, what do you think?

PAT...
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