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Ray_Maines
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 08:29 pm: | 
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I found this on another site: YUCK!
Best Breaks In The World |
X1glider
| | Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 11:50 am: |
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I absolutely love to see squidly wannabee cool types without gloves and helmets destroy themselves and their bikes. The deserve what they get.
On the other hand I do see practicing wheelies as valuable. Barreling out of a turn and twisting the wick can easily get the front wheel up when the bike isn't straight and upright yet. Helps to know how to deal with it and be able to react properly without freaking out and losing it. |
Buell_Brener
| | Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 11:17 pm: |
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A couple of comments here from some of what I have read comes to mind. One "The MSF clases are a joke". After ten years of sport bike riding without incident I recently had an accident and believe I am still alive today because of what I learned in a MSF course and how I applied it. The MSF people are simply trying to make motorcycling safer and that is IMHO a good thing. Second helmets make motorcycling safer and more enjoyable. Try riding in 40 degree weather without one.
Ride safe and have fun. |
Racerx1
| | Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 10:27 am: |
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Buell_brener,
I agree with you about the MSF course. Sure, its not rocket science but its always good to be reminded....there are a couple points i disagree on (4 fingers covering the brake for one), but overall I think it does a great job for a large audience. My Wife got a ton out of it....
My heartburn is with the state run motorcycle licensing process. My experience is with Indiana and it was a joke. If you could make it around the course and not fall down, you passed. I saw some horrible technique....one guy never even touched his front brake the whole time! I actually went back a couple saturdays just because it was so entertaining (yet scary at the same time). The written portion of the test was a complete joke...some of the answers to the questions were just plain wrong in my opinion.
Helmet laws.....I agree a person shouldn't have to wear a helmet if he doesn't want to, this is America after all. I'm a firm believer in Darwinism and the fact that i enjoy the company of 95% of the motorcyclist i meet vs <25% of the general population makes me think its working. A helmet law would lower that 95% substantially. The only exception to that rule would be a new rider since they may actually be nice people and just not know any better, who I think should be required to wear a helmet for at least the first year....
Jusy my opinions! |
Buelliedan
| | Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 10:43 am: |
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Weston,
You have racing experience. This is why you think 4 fingers when using the brake is wrong. BTW, MSF never has the rider cover the brake, we have them cover the clutch. One of the reasons we want them to use all four fingers on the brake is so that they will roll off the throttle completely before engaging the front brake. If they have to reach out with 4 fingers it helps ensure that they roll off. Nothing is scarier then when a new student is trying to stop with the bike at full throttle, not pulling in the clutch and locking up the front wheel!! I am an MSF instructor obviously. |
Southernmarine
| | Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 11:26 am: |
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I'm pretty new here and when I saw this section I had to go through and check it all out. I'm glad it's here. When I got my first bike, in order to ride on base the Marine Corps, along with some of the other services requires you to take the MSF course. Thank God, because we have some young idiots who think, no, believe they are invulnerable and they think they know how to ride. That is until they take the course and learn some things they never knew.
I knew at a VERY young age that if I ever rode a motorcycle I would always wear a full face helmet, no matter what. When you are 10 years old and you pass an accident on the interstate and you literally see a motorcycle rider laying in the middle of the road with his brains spilled out it kind of gets the point across. It was also shortly after I took my MSF course in 1992 that I realized that no one is safe, no matter what precautions you take. How did I find that out, my MSF instructor was hit and killed while he was riding his bike. Sometimes you can do everything right, even go beyond what it should take and it won't make a difference if the cagers don't show you as a rider the respect you deserve. |
Racerx1
| | Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 04:59 pm: |
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buellie Dan,
Makes sense! sorry for the incorrect interpretation. out of curiosity, what do they teach in the MSF advance course as far as braking? Personally, I feel more comfortable with 2 finger braking (when the bike is capable....) with the thumb and other two on the grip.
I need to get back for an MSF...you guys do a great job instructing! I'm sure you have a bunch of good stories from your teaching experience...
Regards,
Wes |
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Why we should wear protective gear... (WARNING!!! Very graphic images!)
