| Author | Message | ||
     Sparropie |
Does the 08 1125R have a jiffy stand interlock? So ya can't drive off with the stand down....  | ||
| Jdugger |
No. The stand will automatically retract if you lean into a corner with it down. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Nope, it lets you ride away and wonder what the heck all that racket is. Scares the crap outta me every now and then. I don't know why it was left off the US models. The mount is there to install it as it comes on the Euro models. ac (Message edited by avc8130 on September 09, 2009) (Message edited by avc8130 on September 09, 2009) | ||
| Sparropie |
Yea, Buell is so ruled by lawyers it surprised me too. | ||
| Nadz |
oversight, logic, lawyers ...here we go again | ||
| No_rice |
i guess i couldnt tell you the last time i ever left one of my kickstands down, i guess anymore its like getting in the car and putting on a seatbelt. its habit. i dont even have to think about it. but i could tell you the couple times i had to bybass the switches on friends bikes after they crapped out and shut down the bike while riding... | ||
| Avc8130 |
I just about always remember to sweep the stand, but sometimes it bounces back down or I don't get it past the point and it doesn't actually retract. Not that big of a deal, but I definitely liked the switch on the old bike. ac | ||
| Fresnobuell |
NO switch please. It's totally unnecessary and one less thing to leave me stranded someplace. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Stranded? It is a switch. If you tie the wires together it is happy. Honestly, in well over 200,000 combined miles no one I ride with has had a kickstand switch failure. Of course, tomorrow the G/fs is going to fail. ac | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Stranded? It is a switch. If you tie the wires together it is happy. Honestly, in well over 200,000 combined miles no one I ride with has had a kickstand switch failure. Of course, tomorrow the G/fs is going to fail. So you are telling me that you could jumper the wires simply with your hands--without ANY tools? Just curious. Assuming you could bypass the switch with just your hands, anything that leaves me working on my bike roadside it worth avoiding, especially something as useless as a kickstand switch. It's a kickstand. If you can't make sure it's up when you take off, well that's your problem. I really don't see how anyone competent can not remember AND fully execute the maneuver of putting the kickstand it's correct position. It ain't rocket science. BTW, the switch does fail. | ||
| No_rice |
a good one, was one of my friends with an X1 kept having his bike cut out on him while we were riding. it was intermitent. we could not seem to come up with what was wrong. well we were out riding one day and i noticed his kick stand bouncing ALOT. as in it would move away from the up position a noticable amount. duh. easy fix. jumper the switch and the problem was gone. now obviously it wasnt the swithces fault, but instead it was the kickstand spring being weak that was causing the problems with the switch cutting out the motor. either way it was very un nerving running through a hard corner and having the bike sputter. it really throws off your line. | ||
| Chadhargis |
What sucks is having to zip tie the sidestand switch if you ever attend a track day, track school, or race and are required to remove your stand. Better make DANG sure that zip tie is tight and doesn't vibrate off cutting power at the wrong time. Also sucks to hit a big bump and have your stand sag a bit and cut off power for a second. | ||
| Froggy |
No stand switch, no clutch switch, just the way I like it. Good thing it wont start in gear without the clutch, I accidentally left it in first today and would of gotten a nice surprise  | ||
| Hootowl |
Buell has recalled kickstand interlock switches in the past. I had the same intermittent loss of power as described above. When you're really leaned over in a slow corner and the engine stalls when you're expecting to accelerate, tipping over is hard to avoid. So yes, leave the stupid things off. One less thing to go wrong. I'll be responsible for retracting my own kick stand. | ||
| Crowley |
Avc, there's been a history of these switches, which contain a Hall effect sensor, failing in the UK. Several people have been left stranded. Unlike the switches (which have been removed and the wires shorted out) on my 3 Tubers and XB nearly bike, you can just unplug the switch on the 1125. My switch is still fine  | ||
| Avc8130 |
Yeah, I could resolve the issue on the side of the road with the tool kit under the rear seat...but again...on ALL the previous bikes myself and my friends have owned I have yet to experience a failure. I have seen plenty of people start off down the road with kickstands deployed. Really this thread is for naught at this point. The original posted asked if the 1125s had a kickstand switch. The answer is "No" on US spec models. According to the service manual Euro spec models DO have a switch. As with everything else in life there will be pros and cons and people who love and hate. ac (Message edited by avc8130 on September 09, 2009) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Kickstands are designed to retract when contacting the ground any way. I would be lying if I said I have never done it. Everyone has at one point. Like someone said (no rice?), retracting the stand is an involuntary action now. Sorta like hitting my turn signal cancel switch after the turn. I can't remember the last time i left it on accidentally--it's been over a year for sure. also, if you haven't guessed, I would hate self-cancelling turn signals. | ||
| Hootowl |
I'm pretty sure the kickstand interlock switch does not contain a hall effect sensor. The speedo sensor does. | ||
| Zac4mac |
You'd be wrong Hootie. It IS a Hall Effect sensor, no moving parts, not a "switch" in the conventional sense. If they had come with a sensor here, like they do in Europe, it would have been the FIRST thing I removed. My old Firebolt(my first Buell) belongs to my little brother now. It STILL has a jumper I made from Budweiser can on the side of the road when it stopped my forward progress one day. Zack | ||
| Hootowl |
You're right. You can detect position with a hall sensor. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Hmm...a hall effect sensor should actually be more reliable than a switch since there are no contacts to corrode. Most speedometers are hall effect sensors...some live right on the front wheels and you don't hear about failures often. ac | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I don't get what's so hard about the process: 1) sit on bike 2) stand bike up 3) retract kickstand. | ||
| Daggar |
Slow down Fresno. You're losing me. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Okay Dagger, I'll give you another example if that's too complicated: 1) Activate turn signal 2) Complete turn 3) Cancel turn signal  | ||
| Daggar |
That's supposed to be LESS complicated? Geez....  | ||
| Avc8130 |
It is weird with this bike, I have never put my previous bikes in gear and had them killed by the kickstand interlock. However, with this bike I have had the kickstand deployed at least 3 times while driving away. I always sweep the kick stand, but something about it just didn't remain up. On a side note, I don't think it has occurred since the kickstand spring was upgraded. Obviously the practice is not complicated. Self-cancelling signals would be nice for some people. I see people riding down the road ALL THE TIME signalling left in the left lane of the highway! ac | ||
| Chadhargis |
Strange thing is, the bike has a sidestand sensor. It shows up in the "live data" mode and will change from a 1 to a 0 when you raise and lower it. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Damn Chad, you are sure diving deep. A couple weeks old and you understand more than most in diagnostic mode. Pass on the nuggets of info when you discover anything. | ||
| Ridenusa4l |
Chad i've noticed that too, but do not know why?? Jake | ||
| Chadhargis |
Several of the diagnostic mode screens operate in a binary mode (1 or 0) indicating 1 for on and 0 for off. I'm a computer guy, so I understand binary. Fun with subnet masks make that a must. The diag mode is pretty good. I'll be damned if I can find anything about the 1125 that I don't like so far (other than the 'noid which is no longer on my bike). It's a marvelous engine. |
