| Author | Message | ||
     Stewadi |
Ok, so I'm wheeling and dealing with a local dealer on a 2009 Buell 1125CR with the high bars already installed. They want to charge $858.00 for the installation. The price is broken down as follows from the work order: Kit $215.00 LABOR $570.00 (6 hrs at $95.00 an hr) grip lock $3.95 left grip $8.22 Brk fluid $6.95 High bar end caps $7.50 Shop Supplies $45.60 (does not specify) For a grand total of $857.22 Is this standard? I thought 6 hrs was a little much. May just ask to include it or no deal. Why should I have to pay for it, they already installed them is my thinking. Any feedback is appreciated. | ||
| Marcodesade |
Yeah, I agree. Or offer to have them reinstall the clubmans (at their own expense). | ||
| Avc8130 |
Not really sure what the shop suppplies could be for $45, especially since they list brake fluid separately. 6 hours seems like a lot too. Just looking at it I think I could do it in 2-3. Are they cutting you a break on the 09? If you just wait for a 10 it would come with those bars anyways if you are close to MSRP. ac | ||
| Paulp1125cr |
i bought two months ago i love the clubmans i no that's not the point but that price seems very high for changing bars | ||
| Paulp1125cr |
i bought a cr two months ago i love the clubmans i no that's not the point but that price seems very high for changing bars | ||
| Scubarc51 |
i put Pro-taper bars on my CR and just bought the parts from the dealer. i think it was like $130 for parts with new grips and got the pro-taper bars off ebay for $30 It took maybe 1 1/2 to 2 hours to put on. i switch back to the clubmans for Trackdays and it only takes about 15 mins to switch them | ||
| Dentguy |
Wow. 6 hours to install the bars along with $56.50 for shop supplies, brake fluid and grip lock. Can't imagine what they would charge for the valve adjustment/service. | ||
| Radioelasais |
6 hours make no sense to me. only thing that is not listed is fasteners (free!) and 2 copper washers for the brake lines (worth 3$). many dealers are selling 2009 leftover CRs gianluca | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
I think the labor was 2.5-3 hrs when I had mine done. Remember, when you are dealing with a dealer, everything is potentially negotiable. And from the perspective of the dealer, you ALWAYS start with a ridiculous number for 2 reasons. One, you can always back down, but you can never go up. Two, sometimes people say "O.K. I'll take that one." Don't hold it against me, but that's what I do for a living. 100% of the time, you ask for the moon and the stars. Sometimes you get it! Now go beat the crap out of them. R | ||
| Xl1200r |
6 hours is too much, and there should be no shop supplies involved aside from a couple dirty rags. They shouldn't need shop air, any grease or anything like that for that job. I would dicker that down, or, go for a '10 model (as Avc said) depending on price as they come with the high bars standard. | ||
| Xb1200rick |
I just got my 09'cr and the dealer threw in the high bar kit with the bike. I put them on myself in about 3 hours. The only hard part was getting the clutch line out . everything was in the kit except brake fluid and grip lock (superglue) . 6 hours is a little excessive especially if you have done one before. Rick | ||
| Teach |
Ask them to split the cost on the install. | ||
| Mpolans |
That's b.s. You're getting hosed if you're getting charged when the bars are already on there. Tell them to eat the cost or you'll walk. Or, call their bluff and tell them to go ahead and put the clubman's back on. | ||
| Xl1200r |
That's b.s. You're getting hosed if you're getting charged when the bars are already on there. Tell them to eat the cost or you'll walk. Or, call their bluff and tell them to go ahead and put the clubman's back on. It's not b.s. for a dealer to expect to be paid for work they did on a bike. If they put a Fat Boy on the floor with $4,000 in chrome, a custom paint job, custom wheels and a big-bore engine kit, should they expect to still only get MSRP for it? What this dealer *should* be doing is realizing that a 2010 comes with the high bars already, and this 2009 with the high bar kit should be priced accordingly (read, lower than the MSRP WITH the kit). BUT, they don't have to. It's their bike, and they did put the time, effort and cash into putting those bars on, so they'll charge what the customer will pay. You need to offer less than MSRP for the whole package, letting the guy know the 2010s with those bars are on the way already. | ||
| Radioelasais |
I just got my 09'cr and the dealer threw in the high bar kit with the bike what exactly is in that kit? thanks | ||
| Avc8130 |
Let's look at it this way: You want to buy a 2009 the way the 2010s are coming. You need to get that 2009 for significantly less than MSRP. If you don't, you might as well buy the 10. ac | ||
| Chadhargis |
I bought my 2009 with the high bars already installed. It was the demo bike at Bumpus. The cost of the bars was on the buyers order, but I'm thinking it was in the $300 range, or something like that. I got a very good deal on the bike. I think they still have a 2009 CR. Give Fatty B. a call. He'll sell you one and you can ride it across country.  | ||
| Doctorneon |
I just installed a set of tomiselly bars, thinking about and machining the parts and installing them didn't take 6 hrs. | ||
| Joel9 |
stewadi, what dealer is it in wa.? eastside hd in bellevue is saying the same thing. almost a grand added on for the optional bar kit. almost all labor just like you said. | ||
| Andros |
i will soon have a highbar for sale switching to a drag bar.... | ||
| Froggy |
The high bars came on my 09 CR, it was $600 total including bars + labor. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
857 for a new set of bars? wowza | ||
| Too_tall_ss |
It was only 300 total for parts and labor, just need a good dealership I guess. | ||
| Xb1200rick |
what exactly is in that kit? bars, both cables , brake and clutch line including brass washers, left grip,both end caps and a few wire ties. the only shop supplies needed were brake fluid and glue. Rick | ||
| Tpoppa |
I would make them throw in the undercoating for free. | ||
| Stewadi |
Thanks everybody, I'm glad to see my gut instinct was right on this one. Like Carbonbigfoot said a dealer will "ALWAYS start with a ridiculous number." I'll ask them to price it out more in line with what has been stated here and see what happens. Once again thanks for the assistance. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Personally, I would not waste any more time on this dealer. If the guy wants to rob you blind as a way of making a deal, I can just imagine what will happen when you actually need him to help you. Action indicated: Find a dealer who is grateful for some business in a very slow period. There are lots of them out there. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Can't blame a dealer for trying to make a buck. That's the beauty of the internet, you can do your research and strike a fair deal for both parties. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I've seen them on bikes at the dealers and the add on price was about $600.00. I thought that was high! $857.22 ??? no way would I pay that! | ||
| Froggy |
+1 to that, especially when they are charging for stuff thats already in the kit! I would avoid any place that charges fees like supplies, tools, and disposal fees. You don't go to a restaurant and get nailed with a napkin and cup fees. It is a bad business practice as it scares off return customers. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I would avoid any place that charges fees like supplies, tools, and disposal fees. You don't go to a restaurant and get nailed with a napkin and cup fees. It is a bad business practice as it scares off return customers. I disagree. The auto/moto service industry is tough. For the most part, you are being provided a completely intagiable service. Yes, you know when the car or bike is broke, and it runs better when it's fixed, but that's the extent. From the customer's viewpoint, they're shelling out hundred or even thousands of dollars merely to get the vehicle operating the way it did a few days earlier. That's a tough cost for people to swallow. Service departments can just charge flat rates for repairs and hope they are able to verbally convince the customer why is costs $300 to install a $5 part, or they can itemize the bill so the customer can see why the cost is higher than they would have thought. The garage I worked at included all the "keep the lights on" costs in the labor rate - everyone's salary involved (techs, receptionists, back office people, etc), electricity to run the light bulbs, air compressors, heat the place or run fans, etc. We also included rags in that price. But we did split out things like fluids (unless they were included in an oil change) like brake and clutch, transmission, any added oil, etc, grease for chassis parts, etc. It allows the labor rate to stay lower which keeps the customer happy, and still allows the shop to get paid for all the stuff they had to use - it takes much more than a technician and the part to replace. And we had some of the most loyal customers I have ever seen for ANYTHING, let along a garage. | ||
| Tpoppa |
If it REALLY took 6 hours, I would say the tech was learning as he went. Maybe 6 hours is per the book, but I still wouldn't pay it. Chevy dealer quoted me 8 hrs labor (with parts over $1,000) to change the fan clutch on my Trailblazer, they said you had to remove the radiator, drain coolant, etc, etc... I had a local kid do the job instead, took him 45 minutes and he wanted $50 for labor, hell I even tipped him another $50. The dealer would have done the same job in the same 45 minutes, but still charged me 8 hrs 'cause the book said so. No thanks, I work too hard for my money. | ||
| Semper_1120fi |
I had a dealer quote me 3 or 4 hrs labor from the book, and I was looking over his shoulder when he looked it up. They're trying to hose you. |
