| Author | Message | ||
     Pogue_mahone |
looking for similar bikes to the xb in size weight hp. just curious what is out there. love my xb !! | ||
| Mikef5000 |
I'll get ya started. Google these guys: SV650 SV1000 FZ6 FZ1 Honda 919 | ||
| Froggy |
Nothing really. There aren't many air cooled sport bikes. There is the BMW HP2 Sport:
Also the Ducati Monster 1100S
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| Mpolans |
If I didn't have my XB12S, my next pick (maybe my next bike) would be a Triumph Street Triple R. It's Brit, not Jap, but I'm guessing you wouldn't care. | ||
| Delta_one |
if you count it as a sport bike the Ducati Hypermotard is also air cooled | ||
| Pogue_mahone |
thanks guys thats the sort of stuff i was after.dont really know squat about other makes and such | ||
| Jake318 |
Yamaha actually makes a Buell clone the MT-01 but I myself am not too keen on it because of its Physical size and weight(572lbs) and it has a bolt on look if you get my drift . Its really a personal taste issue. Like the Buell its a love it or hate it bike Jake | ||
| Jstfkndi |
I have been interested in the MT-01 since it made its first appearance. I agree that the look is a little cheesy and it is a bulky bike, but all that can be made up with the aftermarket switcharoos (available in Europe of course). I have checked out videos of their sound and quite honestly, it is an amazing sounding bike! I also like the motor size! They could put that bike on a diet and drop a 6 speed in it and I would love to own one! It seems a sore mentionable on this site for some reason though and I know it's not a Buell, but sure would be a contender for me if it ever made it stateside! | ||
| Jake318 |
JST it uses Yamahas touring motor that has a 4500-5000 rpm redline(talk about having to shortshift lol)and a compression ratio of only 8.4:1(think briggs and stratton lol) 90hp and 110lbs of torque . I wonder what it would be like with a 10:1 CR . | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
SV1000 | ||
| Jstfkndi |
True that they could have put a bit more into the internal workings. I have heard that they use higher performance parts as compared to the Road Star motors from people on their forum and folks toying with the idea of using MT-01 parts on their cruisers, but the gain just isn't enough. I think it is a good design that got hurried into production and the research didn't go into it. The low redline would drive me nuts! Don't know what my affinity to the bike is though. I know it's not much of a performer, but I would love to have that huge twin sound! You could run 87 with no knock at that compression though. I guess that will help you make up for the shipping it would take to get it here....if the states LET you get it here! | ||
| Aptbldr |
SV650 like an XB? ONLY on paper. | ||
| Ramm |
I would recommend against the SV650, I've ridden one and it doesn't have NEAR the power my 9 has. It felt like it took FOREVVVVVER to get up to speed. Was an 07. | ||
| Froggy |
Not even on paper. The SV650 is a watercooled Blast. Edit: Actually thats giving the SV too much credit. (Message edited by froggy on September 08, 2009) | ||
| Ourdee |
Need some pics on here. | ||
| New12r |
The SV650 will eat a blast alive in every way possible, including handling. I have owned both bikes and the SV is a great bike hands down. The power on a STOCK SV is a little weak but with mild mods can get within 10hp of a 9 but about 20lb/ft short on torque. The handling will not quite match the XB unless you put some Killer forks and rear shock(I rode a race prepped SV with AK20 traxxion front end and Ohlins rear, much much much better than stock). Great bike. | ||
| Tpoppa |
One of the fastest street riders I know rode an SV650s, and left may literbikes in the dust on windy backroads. He has since picked up a XB9r and is a bit quicker, but not as much a you prolly think. If you don't think an SV650 is a capable sportbike, you are mis-informed. (Message edited by tpoppa on September 08, 2009) | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
SV1000.... | ||
| Interex2050 |
i vote against the SV1000S its an appliance, nothing more sure it can be made more... stimulating by changing to 1/5 throttle, shorter shifter arm, brakes, tires, etc... but in the end its very dull the suspension is sub par even after adjustment its not as comfortable sucks gas like a oil tanker and is made of swiss cheese (hardware strips due to soft alloys, connectors catch fire, the stator magnets are adhered with elmers glue...) yet has as much character as a chinese toaster when on the road i am sure with more work and money it can be made fun... but why bother polishing a turd. There are bikes out there that deserve the attention, yet most don't need it... to be fun i.e. RC51, any Ducati SB... (Message edited by interex2050 on September 08, 2009) | ||
| Mpolans |
I love the looks of the MT-01, but it weighs 200lbs too much. >>Yamaha actually makes a Buell clone the MT-01 but I myself am not too keen on it because of its Physical size and weight(572lbs) and it has a bolt on look if you get my drift . Its really a personal taste issue. Like the Buell its a love it or hate it bike Jake | ||
| Jake318 |
If you havent already figured this out , im a nut for odd engineering projects. Briggs and statton flathead opposed twin , high compression , high lift cams worked heads ect for buddies racing lawn mower as one example . The other is a 98 road king with the Jims 2200c engine with 675 lift cams roller rockers ect. Frame flexes terribly when stock so you can imagine what its like now lol. ... Anyhow the MT01 apparently has a loyal following a like the Buell in Europe so im going to see if they have a forum and see what they have to say . im sure someone has worked that 1700cc pushrod touring engine ill get back with findings.. jake | ||
| Brumbear |
The street triple has a better powerplant but it ends there they have no agjustable suspension the parts are quite expensive go ahead crash one see what it sets you back to repair and its water cooled I love my lump like that bald antisocial chick sang nothing compares noth-ing compares... to you | ||
| Mpolans |
That's why you get the Street Triple R...the R version has a fully adjustable suspension. Regarding expense and air-cooling, true, and part of the reason I have an XB12Scg instead. That said, the Street Triple R has the closest seating position to my XB12Scg compared to any other similar handling bike I've sat on...the Ducati Monsters look nice, but the seating position felt noticeably more aggressive with a longer reach to the bars. >> The street triple has a better powerplant but it ends there they have no agjustable suspension the parts are quite expensive go ahead crash one see what it sets you back to repair and its water cooled}} | ||
| Jake318 |
Ok they seem to have a stage 3 package which consist of a power commander pipes , free intake and upped compression (didnt specify ?) Package brings bike up to 115hp and 115lbs of torque. still a strait line bike though with all the heft . I wouldnt mind taking it for a ride but cant see myself buying the bike. jake.. now im off to start a useful thread lol | ||
| Sifo |
We just picked up a Street Triple on Friday for the wife. It's an awesome bike. The stock suspension is pretty capable, but you could upgrade to the R version to get the adjustable pieces (or find take off pieces from a Daytona, racers often upgrade those). It's a very comfortable bike and handles fantastic. The power is good and very linear. It just begs you to thrash it! I wish it had an analog speedo though. My biggest complaint is that it's not American made. At least it's not Japanese cookie cutter inline 4 though. I did sit on a Suzuki GSX650F the last week. Looked quite nice. Very comfortable seating position. Good wind protection. I couldn't talk them into a test ride though, so off to Triumph we went.  | ||
| Pogue_mahone |
brumbear== ugly is only skin deep-- i love my buell cant imagine riding anything else but a buell. and thanks for the input everyone | ||
| Slaughter |
SV-650 ONLY IF you put a "real" suspension on her. GSXR front end and Penske rear worked very well - and made it pretty similar to the XB as far as suspension and brakes. Stock? You at least would need cartridge emulators and a GSXR shock - but the emulators don't give you the adjustability. Don't get me wrong, the SV is very capable when properly modified and like any bike, once you've gotten it properly setup, it'll do really well... just not stock. I've raced BOTH - same track, same day. Even when I had the engine work done on the XB, it took me a while to get it dialled in - and with 30 more HP, it still took me a couple months to get better lap times than on the SV - but ultimately, I got MUCH quicker after a year's seat time. | ||
| Skully |
I race against SV650s in the Central Motorcycle Racing Association (http://www.cmraracing.com) I can tell you that properly set up and piloted by a good rider, they get within a few seconds of the track record at Oak Hill Raceway. OHR is a tight and technical track that rewards skill and set up over horse power, but given that, the SV can be a very fast machine. Keith | ||
| Jraice |
Mpolans... +1! Except I'd probably go for the torquier and overall much faster Speed Triple  , although it is nice that the Street Triple R has race inspired brakes/suspension. Smooth power, lots of torque but still a nice top end. Crazy triple cylinder sound. | ||
| Blake |
"I can tell you that properly set up and piloted by a good rider, they get within a few seconds of the track record at Oak Hill Raceway." About 6 or 7 seconds I think. | ||
| Js_buell |
Not air cooled but e very nice bike and good power the KTM superduke 990 and 990r. Ok it's like many bikes mentioned here you love it or hate it for it's look but I'm telling you the power is there. | ||
| Chaze1385 |
Oh i miss my TL1000s, damn exwife got it in the divorce, but that is all she got, i ran pretty consistant 6.90's in the 1/8mile on that thing. WIth just a cut up airbox, and half gutted stock mufflers. ANd that evil sound. |
