| Author | Message | ||
     Lastonetherebuys |
I'm not sure if it has been discussed or not yet, but in my opinion isn't 10,000km / 6200 miles between services an awful lot? i mean the oil breaks down. what are ppls opinion on this distance between oil changes? | ||
| Ron_luning |
If you want facts about how much the oil has broken down you can change it and send it to a lab for analysis. I like to change it at 3000 miles though. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Synthetic, baby. Modern oils go so much longer than the ones your dad used in his car. 3,000 miles is still an industry benchmark, but doesn't really hold much water. I know there are people who change the oil in their 1125 as often as every 1000 miles with a full synthietic oil. Personally, I've never heard of a bigger waste of money. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Personally, I've never heard of a bigger waste of money. Topless Bars. Also, consider that synthetics generally break down MUCH slower than conventional oils... R | ||
| Xl1200r |
Topless Bars. At least you get something for your money, though. I throw out a couple bucks, I get to see some boobies. Sounds like a better deal that throwing away good oil and replacing with more good oil. | ||
| Lastonetherebuys |
just currious, What is everyone's brand of choice when it comes to oil? In past bikes I have ran amsoil, motuel, and lucas. mind you they weren't in the same bike once i chose an oil i stick with it unless I have a problem with it | ||
| Daggar |
I use Amsoil. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Amsoil for me. Goes well with topless dancers, too... R | ||
| Zac4mac |
I'm running Red Line. 20w-50 Summer and 10w-40 in Winter. (Message edited by zac4mac on August 27, 2009) | ||
| Ccryder |
Does Red-Line go good with Topless dancers in the summer and winter??? | ||
| Chevycummins |
Did my 6,200 mile service last Saturday. Used Mobil synthetic 20W50 V-Twin from local Autozone. $9 a quart. Might be my imagination but seems to have much less shift effort and is smoother shifting now. | ||
| Chevycummins |
6,200 miles seems a little long to me between changes. I think from now on about 4,500 miles will be my max. I'm not too worried about the oil breaking down but don't like all the clutch dust and stuff in there. My oil filter was black and the pleats were all collapsed. Didn't look good to me. The oil that was in it that time was the Syn3. | ||
| Freezerburn840 |
Kal-Gard Semi Synthetic Blend for me 20w 50w. 3,000 miles I will switch to their 100% Synthetic Group V Ester V Twin Oil 20w 50w. www.kalgard.com (Message edited by freezerburn840 on August 27, 2009) | ||
| Eaton_corners |
According to the service interval, at 6200 mi only the oil is changed, not the filter.The filter change is not scheduled until the 12400 mi service. Also, I have heard that oil does not actually breakdown, that is why you can buy recycled. And even more weird is that used oil(recycled) is said to be better than new. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
I do plan to change my filter every time, as I did at the 6200... R | ||
| Crowley |
I'm sure the oil would be fine at far higher miles than 6k. However, the corrosive bye products on combustion, fine particles of metallic and other debris, carbon etc and a myriad of other contaminants carried in suspension in the oil, may not be so welcome in your motor. | ||
| Lastonetherebuys |
changing the oil and not the filter is absolutly pointless. there are as many contaminants in your filter as there is in used oil and once you filter that new oil with the dirty filter you may as well as left the old oil in it. (Message edited by lastonetherebuys on August 27, 2009) | ||
| Zac4mac |
Last time I checked, Crisco went best with Topless Dancers. Maybe Mazola, can't remember for sure. These days, probably pure Canola. Less saturated fats you know... If I'm going to spend 45 bucks for oil, I'll spend 15 bucks for a NEW filter. Z | ||
| Eaton_corners |
All good points. Just seems like an odd recommendation from the owners manual. Another weird tidbit, I have heard that the oil with the best friction properties is actually vegetable oil. However it has a very low tolerance for heat. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Just out of curiousity, why does everyone think they are smarted than the engineers? Do you really think Buell/Rotax would put stuff in the manual that would cause harm to your motors? ac | ||
| Lastonetherebuys |
They did put the wrong way to check the oil level in the manual. Even engineers make mistakes. | ||
| Hellgate |
I love oil threads... My grandfather was an motor engineer with Chevy and Hudson in the late 20's and the 30's. Back in the 80's I remember him saying that a 3,000 miles oil change was a waste of money. His advise was was to, "follow the owner's manual". I had a 2002 Porsche Carrera, the interval was 15,000 miles. Now that is a dry sump motor with 11 quarts of Mobil 1 but you get the idea... | ||
| A10tankkill |
Not sure the engineers are always right or wrong, but here's a link to a different take on break in periods than the manufacturer's promote. He seems logical, but who knows. http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm | ||
| Chadhargis |
My view is that motor oil is cheap insurance. I pay $1000 a year to insure my bikes against a crash, and hope I never use it. So why wouldn't I spend $40 to do an oil change? Besides just the oil change, I like to check the bike over real well. Look for chafing in the wire harnesses, check for leaks, clean things real good. Just do general maintenance. When you're riding a 146hp two wheeled vehicle, 120mph is a bad time to discover you have a problem. I enjoy spinning wrenches on my bikes. I get a beer, put on some music, and take my sweet time going over everything. Changing the oil is easy, quick, and not expensive. Sure, I'm wasting good oil. I just dumped 10 quarts of Amsoil out of my turbo diesel that had been in there for 4000 miles. I also changed the factory oil at 1000 miles. Now I'll settle in on 5000 mile changes, even though the manual specifies 12,200 mile oil changes. It costs me about $100 to do an oil change on my Jeep, but to me, it's worth it just to know that everything is in good working order. If I rode my bikes 15,000 miles a year, then I could see extending the drain intervals. But between three bikes, I probably only put 3000-4000 miles a year on each of them (and less that that on my track bike) so it's a once a year oil change for me. |
