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To what I understand Stoner may have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. That could ruin his carreer if severe enough. My Sister Inlaw has it. It can just take every bit of energy out of you. There isn't any drugs for it. Just ones to maybe feel a bit better is all. It's like you can wake up one day and have it. And then one day you could wake up and its gone forever. My Sister Inlaw has battled for 4 years now but is seeing light at the end of the tunnel as of late. Man I hope this doesn't ruin Stoner..... It could if it is what it sounds like. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
Dana, what causes Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? This is interesting, I've never heard of it before. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Fabrizio has shown more speed than Byrne this year. And more balls..... So I could wake up tommorrow with chronic fatigue syndrom ?? With Stoner out, I think it is time for Spies to get the WSBK title and move to motoGP, because without Stoner and Spies it would be a very boring season next year. I do not think that Lorenzo on the M1 or Pedrosa on any bike can beat Rossi. How many of you actually think that Lorenzo has the same spec M1 as Rossi ?? Is the wall more than just to hide Rossi's setup from Lorenzo, or to hide Rossi's M1 specs from Lorenzo as well ?? Rossi's M1 was faster than Lorenzo's down the straight in Sanchesring. Do you think that Yamaha will let any other Yamaha rider to actually beat Rossi ?? I think Spies best chance in motoGP is with Honda !! Yamaha will never let him beat or challenge Rossi. Lorenzo should have left Yamaha . Rossi's M1 will always be better that the rest of the M1s, including the other factory bike. This year Rossi is dominant, so everybody has seem to forget about the infuence of electronics. The rumours are that Rossi has the best electronics package this year, but noone seem to compalain, no fans or the press. Lets hope that Spies next stop is at Gresini or LCR with HRC factory support. | ||
| Jaimec |
I SERIOUSLY doubt Yamaha is stacking the deck against Lorenzo. Was Yoshimura Suzuki stacking the deck against Ben Spies when he was in AMA? That's just crazy talk. Fabrizio may be faster than Byrne, but Byrne doesn't have a title shot on the line that could be damaged if he were to have an "incident" in MotoGP. THAT'S why it doesn't make any sense to give the ride to Fabrizio. Even if Michel should pull off the impossible and win every race he's in... so what? Doesn't mean a thing in the grand scale of this season (except maybe helping Ducati win the manufacturer's title). | ||
| Trojan |
I SERIOUSLY doubt Yamaha is stacking the deck against Lorenzo. Was Yoshimura Suzuki stacking the deck against Ben Spies when he was in AMA? That's just crazy talk. Fabrizio may be faster than Byrne, but Byrne doesn't have a title shot on the line that could be damaged if he were to have an "incident" in MotoGP. THAT'S why it doesn't make any sense to give the ride to Fabrizio. Even if Michel should pull off the impossible and win every race he's in... so what? Doesn't mean a thing in the grand scale of this season (except maybe helping Ducati win the manufacturer's title). I couldn't agree more. It makes no sense for Ducati to risk their WSB title hopes by letting Fabrizio race in MotoGP this weekend. Even worse, with his hot headed attitude he could cause an accident that would wreck somebody elses championship. Byrne hasn't been as fast as Fabrizio this year, but then he hasn't got the same spec Ducati either. In fact Byrne's bike is a long way from being even close to a factory Ducati. As for Yamaha giving Lorenzo second rate kit, that is a non starter. Did they give Rossi second rate parts when Lorenzo won? Lorenzo has been injured and is only now getting back to full fitness, so I would expect this weekend to be very close between the top 3 riders (Rossi/Lorenzo/Pedrosa) providing the weather holds out and we don't get another stop/start lottery of a race. I would love to see Mika Kallio pull off a top 6 place this week too  | ||
| Vagelis46 |
If someone can get the WSBK title for Ducati, that would be Haga. But Spies is the favourite for me. Haga managed to blow it again. He will always be No2, like Aaron Slight. Byrne was a disaster this year. After the first positive tests of the season he was a title candidate, with his BSB title. Now he looks stupid. | ||
| Trojan |
Byrne was a disaster this year. After the first positive tests of the season he was a title candidate, with his BSB title. Now he looks stupid. At the tests last winter his bike was close to the factory Ducati. Over the winter and thoughout the season the factory bikes got a lot of updates that teh Sterilgarda and other satellite teams don't get. There was even a rumour that the Sterilgarda bikes had parts taken away by the Ducati factory because they didn't want Byrne faster than the factory riders! Shane Byrne is a class act and great rider, so is certainly not stupid | ||
| Doerman |
There was even a rumour that the Sterilgarda bikes had parts taken away by the Ducati factory because they didn't want Byrne faster than the factory riders! That's just wrong and a prime example of why DMG works for AMA. | ||
| Bads1 |
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Also called: CFS Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) is a disorder that causes extreme fatigue. This fatigue is not the kind of tired feeling that goes away after you rest. Instead, it lasts a long time and limits your ability to do ordinary daily activities. Symptoms of CFS include fatigue for 6 months or more and experiencing other problems such as muscle pain, memory problems, headaches, pain in multiple joints, sleep problems, sore throat and tender lymph nodes. Since other illnesses can cause similar symptoms, CFS is hard to diagnose. No one knows what causes CFS. It is most common in women in their 40s and 50s, but anyone can have it. It can last for years. There is no cure for CFS, so the goal of treatment is to improve symptoms. Medicines may treat pain, sleep disorders and other problems. | ||
| Blake |
Depression. Byrne is a "great rider", but Colin Edwards is "mid-field"? Mate. Your bias is showing.  | ||
| Trojan |
Depression. Byrne is a "great rider", but Colin Edwards is "mid-field"? Mate. Your bias is showing. Blake, you are taking comments out of context here. I never compared Byrne to Edwards. In fact I actually said that I like Colin Edwards and have always been a fan of his. My comments regarding Byrne were in the context that he would be a better/safer prospect for Ducati as a MotoGP stand in because he is contracted to Ducati and is not in contention for a championship. I never said that he would finish ahead of Colin in MotoGP and don't actually think he would if dropped straight in as a stand in. Edwards is a mid field runner with a few exceptions these days. In a field of only 15 bikes anything lower than 5th place is pretty much mid field. I'm not taking anything away from him, but he is not at the same pace as the front 4 guys and is yet to win a GP. No bias, just fact unfortunately. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Edwards would have been WSBK champion on any competitive bike this season, if he was in WSBK. This is not a fact, just my opinion. I would choose Fabrizio over Byrne, for motoGP races. The fact that Fabrizio wants to race in motoGP pretty much shows which is the leading moto-racing series. Lets hope Spies joins GP next year, and Edwards joins WSBK next year. This would have more effect on the quality of racing in these series, than any other signing. | ||
| Trojan |
Edwards would have been WSBK champion on any competitive bike this season, if he was in WSBK. Based on what? Why do you think that Edwards would be faster than Spies or Haga this year? Lets hope Spies joins GP next year, and Edwards joins WSBK next year. This would have more effect on the quality of racing in these series, than any other signing. I think there is maybe too much emphasis being put on Spies coming to MotoGP and winning straight away. Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't, but all the conjecture is taking away from the fact that there will be some very fast 250 riders moving up to MotoGP next year, and I would expect Simoncelli, Barbera, Bautista and Aoyama to be up there with the best of the MotoGP riders very quickly. Whether Spies could be competitive is probable but still open to question until he gets into the series. (Message edited by trojan on August 12, 2009) | ||
| Jaimec |
Superbike riders coming into MotoGP simply don't do as well as the 250 riders; ESPECIALLY with the new 800s. How long did it take Nicky Hayden to win his championship (and only because Rossi had a very "off" year and "gifted" Nicky the win at the end). Toseland and Edwards, two multiple WSBK winners have yet to win a race (Toseland has yet to finish on the podium). The only exception to this appears to have been Troy Bayliss... but even his last win was in the 990 era. Who knows how he'd do on the 800 "robo-bikes." Vagelis: Fabrizio in MotoGP might make sense NEXT year. But this year, taking him out of a series in which he is in SERIOUS contention for the title and putting him in one where he could get injured?? That doesn't make ANY sense. Don't risk someone who has a CHANCE at a title in one series for basically just filling a seat in another series. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Noone knows if Spies could win right in motoGP. Very few thought that he would be so succesful in WSBK. There are some 250 riders that could be faster than Ben , but noone has his fighting attitude. I can still remember his race 1 win at Assen against Haga, and in particular the way he celebrated after the race. It showed a lot. | ||
| Trojan |
but noone has his fighting attitude Have you watched the 250's over the last two years? Simoncelli & Bautista certainly can't be accused of lacking 'fighting attitude' that's for sure, and Aoyama has taken very few prisoners this year either It will be interesting to see how Ben gets on in MotoGP (if he makes the switch of course), particularly against rookies coming from the 250 class. | ||
| Jaimec |
In Ben's favor, in last year's Indy "Wild Card" appearance, he outperformed BOTH of Suzuki's factory regulars. On the other hand, unlike Vermeulen and Capirossi, he'd ridden the GSV-R there before in testing. They hadn't. | ||
| Blake |
250's are for girlie-boys. | ||
| Trojan |
250's are for girlie-boys. And world champions obviously since the start of the 800cc MotoGP era only three other riders have managed break the Rossi/Pedrosa/Lorenzo/Stoner stranglehold on the winners rostrum. These 4 have one all but three GP's between them (all ex-250 riders of course). Of the other three races, one was won by Dovizioso (ex 250), one by Capirossi (ex 250) and one by Chris Vermeulen (shock horror - ex superbike!) but that was a wet race. In 2009 there have only been 2 races where a combination of the 'fantastic 4' haven't taken a clean sweep of the entire podium! 250's are for winners, and the next generation of MotoGP winners will undoubtedly emerge from the current 250 crop (and after that from Moto2) There may be the very odd exception to the rule, but it won't be any more the norm to see Superbike riders make the transition to MotoGP winners in future than it has been so far (at least while thehigh corner speed 800 rules still apply). | ||
| Trojan |
From Crash.net Rumours suggest that Alvaro Bautista has decided against graduating to MotoGP with the Aspar team next season and will instead join Suzuki. In response, Italian website GPone.com is reporting that Jorge Martinez 'Aspar' has signed fellow 250cc race winner Hector Barbera to pilot his Ducati Desmosedici GP10. Bautista presently sits second in the 250cc World Championship, 15 points behind Hiroshi Aoyama, with two wins from six podiums so far this season. Suzuki is the only factory team able to sign rookie riders, since it has no satellite outfit. Loris Capirossi and Chris Vermeulen currently ride for Suzuki, but are yet to take a podium in 2009. Both are out of contract at the end of this season. Barbera, who presently rides for the Pepe World Aprilia outfit, is fourth in the 250cc world championship, with three podiums, including one win. This year is Barbera's fifth in the quarter-litre class. His best full season to date was in 2007, when he finished fifth in the final standings. Official confirmation could come during this weekend's Czech Republic Grand Prix at Brno. Reigning 250cc world champion Marco Simoncelli has already been confirmed at Honda Gresini for 2010, while Aoyama is also being linked to a MotoGP ride next season. Gresini Honda's Toni Elias is another Spanish rider to be linked to the Aspar MotoGP deal. The pieces are falling into place | ||
| Jaimec |
JT in trouble? http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090812jt.h tm | ||
| Trojan |
It's no secret that JT has been under pressure to try and keep his ride for a long time (ever since the start of the 2009 season in fact). Personally I think it would be a real shame if he doesn't get another year in MotoGP, as he isn't as bad as other perennial GP runners who seem to have cast iron contracts in place. Apparently one of the Tech 3 slots is decided directly by Yamaha and they want Edwards to stay (or Spies if he wants the ride). The other slot is open to Tech 3 to decide. Whether they would go for another American rider is thought very unlikely elsewhere even though Monster are a sponsor (Monster also sponsor a number of individual riders as personal sponsors and only came on board at Tech 3 as a result of their tie up with Rossi). John Hopkins has blotted his MotoGP copy book by being too vocal in his comments in the past. He has burned his bridges now and it would be a brave team manager that takes him on again. There are plenty of other riders who deserve a chance in MotoGP before Hopper gets another break thats for sure. The liklihood of Hayden leaving the factory Ducati team for the satellite Yamaha team is very low indeed (although he needs to watch out for Mika Kallio or he could be relegated to the Pramac squad!) Toseland needs to get his head down this weekend and get a good qualifying and race performance under his belt, preferably ahead of Edwards if he wants to keep his job. I would be very surprised indeed if anyone can get near Rossi/Lorenzo/Pedrosa this weekend. | ||
| Trojan |
I would be very surprised indeed if anyone can get near Rossi/Lorenzo/Pedrosa this weekend. So far so good on that prediction, with both Yamaha comfortably ahead of Pedrosa and Edwards a second off the front in 4th place. Mike Kallio is the best of the Ducatis in 7th place, quite a way ahead of Hayden back in 12th (behind James Toseland). Everyone from 10th back should start looking for another job if things turn out to be as busy in the rider market as they seem to be panning out. Early days yet, but I can't see anyone getting in the same time zone as Rossi/Lorenzo this weekend. | ||
| Jaimec |
Three Yamahas and two Hondas in the front five. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
Shame for Lorenzo. He tries to beat Rossi with a obviously much slower M1. He has to push too hard on corner entry and midturn and he crashes. Rossi's bike was definately faster in Sanchesring. It was much faster in the race race at Brno yesterday. Lorenzo said in QP at Brno that this was the first time that he was given the exact same engine as Rossi, because of the new engine rules. But this was not true. Once again Rossi got something better than the rest. Yamaha wants Rossi to win and gives him superior equipment than rest of the Yamaha riders. Edwards said that his bike felt very slow, after the new rule was applied. If Lorenzo, or any other top rider, wants to have a chance of a fair fught against Rossi, he must not look at a Yamaha bike. Lorenzo now should either look at Honda or Ducati. Pedrosa looked terrible for the 2nd race in a row. Rossi passed him like he was stopped, and gave Lorenzo no fught. HRC should look elsewhwre for their no1 rider. Dovi is OK for no2. I am glad Hayden beat Kallio. | ||
| Trojan |
I think you must have watched a different race to me. Lorenzo was as fast or faster than Rossi all weekend until the two occasions when it actually counted (qualifying and race). To suggest that he is given a slower engine is prepostorous and without any evidence at all. Speed trap figures during the race showed Lorenzo consistently faster than Rossi, so any suggestion of inferior equipment is rubbish. Maybe Lorenzo is suffering from 'Rossi induced paranoia' if he believes he is getting 2nd rate equipment. Lorenzo was able to lap at similar times in free practice and qualifying using the same tyres he used in the race, but cracked under extreme pressure from Rossi in the race (for the second race in a row he made a novice mistake when leading). If he is looking for someone to blame then the fault lies squarely on his shoulders. Elias really deserves another year in MotoGP, adn if there was any justice (which of course there isn't!) he would get the second Tech 3 ride vacated by the underperforming Toseland, who yet again failed to impress. 9th place is being highlighted as a good result by teh British press, but he only got that through other peoples crashes ahead of him and didn't overtake a single person all afternoon. Melandri was impressive again, until his badly timed move on Kallio sent them both into the gravel  He obviously had a wheel (or half a wheel) in front but was incredibly slow mid corner and Kallio had nowhere to go but to hit him. Hayden looked a lot more confident on the Ducati. Maybe having fast rookie Kallio breathing down his neck gave him a boost that having Stoner in the garage couldn't do. As for Pedrosa, he rode the perfect race given that he was nowhere near the performance of the Yamaha duo, and was certainly 'best of the rest'. Dovi has to show a lot more speed and consistnecy before he can claim the number one Repsol slot that's for sure. Both the 125 and 250 races were definitley more exciting than the main event this week, and I can't wait for the main 250 guys (Simoncelli/Bautista/Barbera/Pasini/Aoyama) to move up next year | ||
| Jaimec |
Vagelis seems to have this pathological hatred of Valentino Rossi. Very strange. | ||
| Vagelis46 |
I have no hate what-so-ever for Rossi. I just get angry that the "system" always gives him an edge against his opponents. Few years ago it was the Michelin "last minute" special tires. This year is the faster engine and more advanced electronics. I can understand that Yamaha will always will give an edge to his #1 rider. What I cannot understand is the fact that Rossi fans cannot see that. When Lorenzo passed Rossi it was very clear who had an extra 20hp to his advantage. Rossi managed to close the gap at every small straight. It was a shame and a joke for all racing fans, except Rossi fans of course that have no interest in racing other than watching Rossi playing cat and mouse with his opponents while he enjoys a clear advantage in either tires or bike. Lorenzo make no mistake to stay in Yamaha. Spies stay away from Yamaha. You will always get inferior bikes compared to Rossi. Now the wall in the Yamaha garage makes sense. It was not built so that Jorge can copy Rossi's suspension setup. The wall is there so that Jorge cannot see the upgrades in engine-electronics-chassis Rossi is using. | ||
| Blake |
>>>When Lorenzo passed Rossi it was very clear who had an extra 20hp to his advantage. That is pure hogwash. Matt has it right. You seem to be suffering from Rossi Derangement Syndrome. I like both Rossi and Lorenzo. Lorenzo came in way too wide, hit the not-so-sticky part of the track and went down. It's that simple. | ||
| Trojan |
Lorenzo has been interviewed extensively since the race yesterday, and has not blamed anyone else for his mistake. I have not read anywhere that he thinks he has inferior equipment to Rossi. In fact this is exactly what he says: “I got a bad start and had to get by some people, and then I just didn't have the same pace that I'd had all weekend. I was slower than in the practices and it really wasn't what I was expecting,” said Lorenzo's who set the fastest lap of the race on lap 16 of 22, but his 1min 56.670sec was only 0.024sec quicker than Rossi and slower than he'd managed in all four previous track sessions. “Unfortunately for me Valentino was just as strong as he'd been all weekend and I had to push very, very hard to stay with him. Towards the end I began to close the gap and after I passed him I was doing everything to stay in front, but then I made a mistake and crashed. “There's nothing more I can say except that I'm so sorry to the team and to Yamaha and I will do everything I can to make it up in America.” How you can infer from these interviews that Rossi has 20bhp more is absurd! Lorenzo lacks experience and made a costly mistake. Period. I like Lorenzo, and he is definitely the rising star of the future, but right now his star is eclipsed by Rossi just like everyone elses. Over the years the Rossi haters have made all sorts of excuses that he gets better this or better that etc. In fact most of the parts are available to everyone on the team, but only he thinks of using them or is fast enough to take advantage of them. The fact is he is faster than everyone else out there by a long way. The 'special' Michelin tyres were used by every team using Michelin rubber over the years. Rossi just happened to have his tyres different to other riders, but if they wanted his compound it was available to them all. |
