| Author | Message | ||
     Ebutch |
I am changing S3 style mount to S2 style mount S2 does not provide tie-bar mount any body do this yet.# 16207-79B to 16450=94y no tie bar mount provided.  | ||
| Buellistic |
Ebutch: The later S3's and X1's had a tie bar from the front motor mount to the frame as did the 2000 BLAST ... "i" put this tie bar on my 1997 S3T ... IMHO, this is why my FRONT ISOLATOR is lasting !!! | ||
| Ebutch |
Lafayette: part # or length of tie-bar center to center Please.  or I can ask for Blast tie - bar | ||
| Buellistic |
Ebutch: Out of the 1999 S3 PARTS BOOK the TIE BAR ASM. PN 16219-79B is used 4 places ... The BLAST TIE BAR ASM. is "BUELLschitte" PN L0499.T which "i" believe to be the same as the Harley-Davidson PN 16219-79B which you can get at any Harley-Davidson Dealer ... "i" would ask for the Harley-Davidson Part Number so the Parts Person will not feel un-comfortable by hearing the word BUELL ... Your 1999 S3 should already have one on it already ??? When "i" installed the "PRODUCT IMPROVEMENT" TIE BAR ASM. the motorcycle was setting as perfectly up-right with motorcycle weight on both wheels ... Then "i" adjusted it so both attachment bolts would go through the EYE LETS then tightened every thing ... | ||
| Ebutch |
Can old tie - bar be readjusted?  | ||
| Buellistic |
"YES" !!! | ||
| Ebutch |
Dam another set back! 3253Y bolt iso mount/tie bar 2000 up for bolt needs to be longer with up dated S2 iso mount. About 1/2 " longer grade 12, from 3" to 3 1/2"  | ||
| Ebutch |
Lucky for me we have an industrial bolt store 14 miles away!!  | ||
| Ebutch |
Dam things don,t quite match-up.So took to mettle fab shop to take off tie-bar stay(S3) to weld on S2 front eng hanger.  | ||
| Buellistic |
Ebutch: How about some pictures of what you are doing as "i" have that lost feeling !!! | ||
| Ebutch |
LaFayette Next Wensday!Cut off tie-bar receiver on S3 hanger weld to S2 hanger. Tie - bar would not take 7/16"bolt. | ||
| Ebutch |
So rigged s2 will have 3 bolt holes as S3 hanger Front iso) (2) 7/16" holes (1) 3/8" tie - bar hole. | ||
| Ebutch |
Really 4 holes | ||
| Ebutch |
Will post modified S2 iso mount front. for S3 tomarrow,Pictures  | ||
| Drhacknstine |
 Ya know how to keep us in hanging Butch. Can ya make one pic a side by side shot. I'd like to see what makes the S2 mount different. (Message edited by Drhacknstine on August 20, 2009) | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
PICHERS!! Must have pichers with this thread! I was just looking at frame differences between the '02 X1 and '97 S3 tonight, and think I'll have a frame brace welded into the left side of the S3 frame just like the one on the X1 frame. I didn't see any differences in the front tie bar mount though.. | ||
| Smoke |
phil, there is an extra link on the 99's and up at the upper forward engine mount that stiffens the front laterally that ebutch is adding to the beefier s2 forward engine mount for his s3. tim | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
Alright that extra brace is the one I'm talking about. My x1 probably doesn't have the other difference in tie bar mount design that you all with s2s are talking about. Guess ill find out for sure when butch posts pichers  . Right now I'm a little lost.. | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Ebutch |
Cut tie-bar brace from S3 iso mount welded to S2 iso mount,Drilled out 7/16 hole right side of iso mount, installed works NICE!!  | ||
| Buellistic |
Ebutch: "i" just love "PRODUCT IMPROVEMENTS" !!! You did good !!! MAY YOUR PRODUCT IMPROVEMENTS A SURE THAT THE LONG LASTING BUELL WILL BE WITH YOU !!! | ||
| Drhacknstine |
I sometimes wonder why this mount wasn't made from steel tubing like the rest of the frame. Weight savings on that mount can't be more than 30 percent. Humm... there is a project.  | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
hmm.. '97 S3 has a front engine mount with the tab (the right side in butch's pics), but no place for the tie bar to mount onto the frame. I'm glad this topic came up, I've never noticed that difference before. | ||
| Guell |
Pk, my m2 does too, i would like to slap a tie bar up there, LaFayette, have any pics of your setup? | ||
| Buellistic |
Pkforbes87: "i" added the "TAB" on my 1997 S3T frame so the TIE BAR could be added ... The RE-CALL(1999)front motor mount had the "TAB" for the TIE BAR bolt ... This front motor mount TIE BAR was on all S3/S3T and X1's from 1999 on except for the 1999 on M2's GUELL: "i" copied the "TAB" of first 1999 S3 that "i" came across and had a professional welder attach the "TAB", cleaned and touched up the frame so it looks like it came from the factory that way ... All you have to do on a 1999 and later M2 is add the TIE BAR ... (Message edited by buellistic on August 20, 2009) | ||
| Guell |
Thanks, i have a 97 m2 so it doesnt do me much good unless i have it welded in. | ||
| Rick_a |
"i" am using a HOTOP FRONT MOTOR MOUNT LIMITER with ALUMINUM rear isolator BUSHINGS. The ride is STIFF and vibration INCREASED, but "i" like IT. | ||
| Phelan |
What is the wing on the left of the S3 mounts for? | ||
| Drhacknstine |
You got to be talking about the support tab for the two slice toaster air box? |
