| Author | Message | ||
     Dalefranks |
I may be a position to buy a new 1125r in a couple of weeks. The local Harley Dealer has two of them, a leftover black '08, and a white/blue '09. They say the '08 has all the recalls done. So, is there anything different about the '09, like heat management or something, that should incline me to the '09 over the '08? | ||
| Electroman |
I have an '08 and my brother has an '09. The difference that I am aware of is the obvious, a different color option on the '09. The '09 has a stronger stator(charging system) and a different readout on the display. Both displays look the same but the '09 shows you gear indication and voltage in addition to what the display shows you on the '08. I hope this information helps. | ||
| Jdugger |
09 added some heat shielding and rear spools for easier tire changes, among other things. What's the price difference? You should be able to get an 08 several thousand less than 09. | ||
| Crowley |
You need to consider the resale value when you consider purchase price. Hopefully things are different in the US but when I checked out trade in value on my bike (16 months old) it was valued at a third of the purchase price. After loyally putting up with the lack of dealer knowlege about the Rotax motor in the UK and taking it back to the dealers many many times for warranty work, I'm sad to say, I'm buying a Ducati. More dealer support and knowlege is required in the UK. A huge shame because I've told everyone I meet what a great bike the 1125 is. It'll probably be used as a track bike when the Warranty is up, since I need a bike I can tour Europe on without, the possibly unfounded, worry of breaking down. | ||
| Ducdood9 |
I have been reading here for about six months. Most 08 owners will say there is no difference. even when you read their post they are having troubles don't seem to mind. Crowley is one of the first to report how in my opinion the average buyer would feel. I know I would not get the 08, | ||
| Crowley |
I bought a new Ducati this afternoon (with full Termi system) and will have it on Friday. HOWEVER - I shall keep my 1125 because I like it so much, esp since it had the '09 console and doesn't have to live on a charger. I also had the latest clutch piston and seal sent from Rotax a couple of months back and couldn't find out if this was the 2010 'fix' or not - no one seems to know, and since then there's been a revision of the outer cover. If I could have been told by a UK dealer, 'Yep, your clutch won't leak again, you've had the final solution', I would have been happy (I didn't want another pair of boots ruined by hydraulic fluid  and my Warranty period will expire soon). In the USA you're fortunate to be able to talk to Tech guys who know the facts, in the UK we can't. However, I'm fortunate in have two of the best bikes ever built - and they're both 2001 X1's  BTW Ducdood, I expect I'm not an average buyer because I have 7 Buells in my shed - I love them to bits  | ||
| Bikejunky |
08 Vs. 09 Expect to have the clutch weep problem on both the Repair will be a warranty issue so it's nothing to get in a wad about. if the updates have been done to the 08 I wouldn't expect real problems but possibly some inconveniences such as turn signals needing replaced if they aren't the newest editions. again covered under warranty. make sure they have checked the gauge cluster for software version and parasitic drain as there are some, depending on build date, that you can have replaced with an updated cluster under warranty. other than small stuff the ride difference between the 08 and 09 is there. The 09 has slightly softer springs for lighter riders as well. I am about 200lbs so I prefer the springs on my 08 as I can tweak the setup to work for me but if you are a smaller person I would consider the 09 more heavily. of course price is an issue also. I have heard of 08s going for as little as 8000 but I think those deals are drying up a little. Most dealers don't want to take that kind of loss just to get a sale. remember that anything less than $9500 out the door is a great deal as it's costing the guy money to sell you a bike. I would expect to pay around 11000 or so for an 09 right now | ||
| Slypiranna |
09's have revised injectors, mapping, exhaust can (ss entry) relocated o2's in primaries...higher output charging system, swingarm spools, different spring rates (front and rear), ect... 09's are worth the difference in current market cost if a buyer wants to be happy, as it is, for a modern, second year (perfected) Stock Production Street Bike. I've had the 08R since Jan of 08 and have ridden six other 08's (in various state of miles/wear and tune/mods)...along with two 09 R's. One 09 R was bone stock, the other with perfected tuning and mild mods. Buy the 09, IMO...even if it costs you up to 3k more out the door, stock. Going racing? Buy the 08R and spend the saved $'s getting her ready to race!  ... ...almost forgot! The 09's have the heat insulation within the frame as well!  ... (Message edited by slypiranna on August 05, 2009) | ||
| Ponti1 |
Sly, you can get LOTS of stuff to make the '08 equivalent or better than the stock '09 for $3k!! By the way, welcome back! | ||
| Dalefranks |
Thanks for all the responses, guys. My initial impression is to go for the '09. Besides, I kind of like the color scheme stolen from the BMW HP2... | ||
| Ponti1 |
stolen from the BMW HP2... I'm pretty sure BMC had that color scheme before HP2 was around. Either way, I wish you best and please let us know what you might end up with!!} | ||
| Dalefranks |
I'm taking a test ride on Saturday afternoon. I've never ridden one, so that's the first step. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
YOu are nuts for considering a purchase of $3K more for the same bike. | ||
| Ducdood9 |
I understand paying more. It's not the same bike. nor is the 2010 and hopefully the 2011. I would only buy an 08 used for a track bike. | ||
| Ekruizenga |
I've owned both: my 08 had issue after issue and spent a good amount of time in the shop. The last repair did it in(water pump leaking) at 6500 miles. Even at 6500 miles there was so much metal shavings on the oil plug that I couldn't see the magnet at each change, personally think the engine was eating itself. the 09 runs like a beast, no issues so far except the fuel sensor error code(knock on wood) at 2200 miles. 2 oil changes and no metal shavings anymore. Pay the money, and ride. or don't pay the money and get to know your local tech very well. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I understand paying more Nuff said. | ||
| Slypiranna |
Nuff said? No. Show me $3k in ALL parts and labor to ride an 09r vs an 8 full on TRUE conversion...NOT a wannabe backyard owner that doesn't even know what short term/long term fuel corrections mean or why his/her headers might "glow". Geez.. You can't...this idea was already tested before this thread started. Unless you've ridden, worked/tuned on more than what you are dogging around on the street...leave the opinion base as it is. Don't judge or make a call for another unless you know what the flip you are talking about...and few seem to really be open and honest about the above. The facts remain. This subject is common with ANY new release from any brand. They all improve and so did the 09 and now the 10. Street...buy an 09. Race...steal the 08. ...and if you can wait and have the $'s, buy the 2010! duh Nuff said | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Hmmm. $400 for a tune... $0 for all the Warranty recalls... What am I missing? That leaves more than enought for a Drum... oops. I mean your choice of aftermarket exhausts.....  Oh, BTW, Welcome Back! R | ||
| Slypiranna |
 ...ain't goin' for that bait carbon! I see you are doing great in meeting your goal of "Thunderstorm" with all the posts that don't add up! LOL! End thread drift and bs posts here please...back to the facts in helping another make an educated and responsible purchase by those that care about the cause. | ||
| Zac4mac |
MM - welcome back. As to the OP - flip a coin. I have 20k + on my 08, #154. She's been in the shop a few times, in and out, for recalls - Thank You BMC! She was down for a month, mostly because I go slow, with a bum cam found at the 12.4k service. If I was looking now and read all the historics of the 11's debut, I'd buy an 08 and get the tools out. This is the MOST AWESOME bike I've ever owned. The new ones are better - evolution works. Z |
