| Author | Message | ||
     Nickh |
I wanted some opinions if anybody has had dual compound tires on their buell. I had pilot power 2 ct's on my previous bike and I'm thinking about getting them for my lightning. Any opinions out there? Thanks, Nick | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I went from the stock dunlops on my 05 to pilot road 2's. Big difference in lean effort. Its more predictable now effortless in the turns. They stick good too. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
I only ride dual compound so dont take my advice because i have never compared.. but a buddy complains that the duals gets sketchy/slippery where the compounds change on the radial.. i've never felt what he has experianced so i say his theory is all in his head  .. im on some corsaIII and dont like emp; but i really liked the 2ct's, its a hard edged tire thats meant to be leaned over | ||
| Pogue_mahone |
i have new conti road attacks.omg awesome tires...very nice and no flat spot in the middle ! | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Conti Road Attacks: I haven't tried enough tires to know how good they are but I've had them on for about 5000 km and they're great. They're a bit flat right now because I just did over 600 km but I'll round them off again later this week. Even so, right now they're miles superior to what the Dunlop Qualifiers were when they were new. The wear indicators are getting close but the tire still feels good. Front is good. About a third of that 600 km was at 140 kph in the pouring rain. I didn't really feel any difference in the tires (which is why I stayed at that speed). | ||
| Mrsinister |
The pilots are great tires. I will be going to them as soon as my original tires are gone. I had a set and loved them. | ||
| Fullcircle |
I run the Bridgestone BT016. Looks like I will get 4500 miles on them. They have survived 350 track miles so far this year and have only slid once and was very pridictable. Have about 1000 on the street with little signs of squaring off. | ||
| Jakecheez |
Got about 1000miles on my Pilot Road 2's. They are awesome!!!! The "rides like it's on tracks" statement is 100% true. They transition in the turn so smoothly. And they have no visible wear in the middle. (about 500 miles are on freeway). In short- buy them, you will love them. If not, you can punch me in the face. | ||
| Wardamneagle |
I've got the Pirelli Diablo III's. Like em so far but have only had them on there for about 500miles so i can't tell you about their endurance. | ||
| Buelltroll |
the 2ct seems a little slipperier where the compounds meet at times its more noticible the more miles you put on them and they lasted about 1000miles less than regular pilot powers | ||
| Sloppy |
Dunlop Roadsmart dual compound - +10! Since I commute most of the time but do enjoy periodic track days, I get frustrated cause the middle of my tire wears out so much quicker than the sides. Not so with Roadsmart! Nice turn in, predictable slide, and good mileage. Very happy with them. | ||
| Lime416 |
I am running Avon AV56 Storm ST's and love them. They are missing the sometimes unreliable transition area that the my previous set of CT2's had, as they are not a true dual compound, but have different density belting from center to shoulder, giving dual compound performance and wear. Have about 2k miles on them so far and they look near new. Quite easy to flick as well, even tho they are standard profile and not as egg shaped as the CT2's. Just my 2 cents worth.  | ||
| Nickh |
Thanks for all of the responses guys. It sounds like plenty of you are using them, so I'm definitely going to get some for my next set. Thanks Again, Nick | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
I have had nothing but good experience with Michelin dual compounds. I have Pilot Road 2's on my Buell. Best handling tires I have ever had. Period. Not sure I would use them for a track day, but one member of Bad Web did, and said they were fine. I have tried out the Michelin Pilot Power 2CT;s on my friends Ducati 999S. Best handling bike and tire combo in my rather lengthy experience. Bottom line: they are great. Powers for the track, Roads for the street. | ||
| Alchemy |
Are all Pilot Roads dual compound? I thought there was a second model (2ct?) for more money that might be different.... or maybe that is just the Pilot Powers. | ||
| Chessm |
pilot road 1 are single compound and pilot roads 2 are dual compound I went from the pilot road 1s to the PR2s. The pr2s are definitly better. Totally cured the severe standing up during braking. Just did a track day on them last weekend at a high speed track and they worked perfectly. | ||
| Buelltroll |
There ARE 2 models the regular pilot powers and the 2ct I personally like the regular ones better for the above stated reasons. | ||
| Etennuly |
I highly recommend the Pilot Road 2's. I got over 10,000 miles on my first rear with them. My Uly never did better than 6,000 with anything else. Besides, if you get the Road 2's and don't like them you get to punch Jakecheez in the face!  That would be awesome! Record it and share on BadWeB! If you like them you could always lie to him about it and recant later! | ||
| Jraice |
I also have the Pilot Road 2's! Good tire, turn in effort was much better then OEM (bike likes to lean more now). Still stands up a bit under braking but most bikes do. Going to try the BT-016's next time though, the true three compound rear, not the OEM dual compound. I think a bit more grip might be nice, not that I need it for sure but I do plan to start riding track a bit here and there and you can always use more grip for mistakes and confidence. I have not noticed any slip's where the compounds change but you do notice the wear differences on the tire, the center is smoother while the sides are more rough (like the edge of a race tire after a fast ride)... This is because the softer compound is heating up a lot more then the harder center. | ||
| Buelltroll |
I'm talking about pilot powers not the pilot roads. | ||
| Xbniner |
I'm in need of a new tire too, and I think from everything I've read here and in other threads that I'll get the pilot road. My front tire is like new, do I need to change it too? | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
I have learned the hard way that it often is a good idea to change tires in pairs, even though the front tire looks good, when the rear is worn out. ( They always do). I found that handling can be severely compromised by doing this, as the tire may look good, but the profile will have changed, and not match the rear profile. In addition if the front is worn, say half way, and the rear is new, there can be quite a variation in ride height, and thus, trail, which affects handling noticeably. Bottom line: Some brothers have reported good results by changing just the rear, but I have not. When you figure the economics of the deal, saving the price of half a front tire, compared to what you have invested in the bike and gear, it doesn't seem like a good bargain if your handling is made worse. just my .02¢ | ||
| Jraice |
Xbniner... Just make sure its the Pilot Road 2CT and not a regular Pilot Road. More expensive but the same mileage with sport tire grip. | ||
| Nickh |
I appreciate all of the input guys. I'm definitely going to go with the dual compounds. The toughest part will be picking the brand/type. -Nick- | ||
| Jraice |
Street only? Unless you ONLY ride in the twisties and ride REALLY REALLY hard I'd say go with the Pilot Road 2's. Will last 2-4 times that of a sport tire and grip great. I still want to look into BT016's but I know the PR2's dont lack grip for me and also I road up in NorCal at a well known road over here, Skaggs. Its basically a race track on the streets. I was following (well he was in front of me, several miles in front of me) a rider on a 954RR with the same tires, and was also running fairly high tire pressures, and he was dragging knee like no tomorrow and riding at a VERY VERY fast street pace. Also he said they worked fine at the track. For track riding I'd get something more, for the street I really like mine, I just feel like trying something else might be fun. | ||
| Delta_one |
how are these tire doing in the wet? I still have some life left in my powers but am trying to decide on road 2's or power 2ct's while they are on sale. I do the all weather thing because I commute with my bike, and my powers leave something to be desired under braking. I love a spirited ride and sometimes waggle the tail out on dry corners but I'm not sure if its the road the tires or the dummy twisting the throttle.  also there is no cure for gravel and debris but what tire seems to handle it the best? (Message edited by delta one on August 04, 2009) | ||
| Nickh |
Delta......when I had the pilot power 2 ct's on my previous bike, I thought they were great in the rain, no complaints. -Nick- | ||
| Jraice |
Delta... I have heard the road 2's are amazing in the wet. As to gravel, not sure what works best. My thought is, my biggest concerns are mileage and "ride". Ride being grip as well as handling. While the power 2ct might be a better gripping tire for 2500 miles or so, it will wear MUCH faster then the road 2ct's and also will most likely lose its shape if I do a long less then twisty ride, in which case the road 2ct would handle better after that because it still has its full rounded shape. I have had the front or rear step out on tar snakes as well as rocks etc... on the road but have yet to have a slide on clean pavement. I ride some paved but fairly dirty roads often and throttle out of them hard in 2nd gear while still leaned over on almost every corner and the rear feels fine. They dont give me as much confidence as I think I would get out of track rubber (have never ridden with anything else really though, atleast not as hard as I ride on these) but they are consistent and only slip up on debris or other road hazards, which I would imagine is the case with most tires. So again, Ill take the much greater mileage... Oh and I have heard from one riding that has gone through a full set that when he switched to the new ones the bike felt exactly the same. This is what I mean by holding its shape. The sport touring tire will stay round and have good grip all the way to (and past) the wear bars. The sport tire will flat spot and most likely lose some grip. | ||
| Delta_one |
thanks guys. maybe I am loosing grip rolling off the flat spot I developed (as small as it may be its still a flat spot). because I know that my tire was spinning a little on my corner exit on a dry sunny day. i just didn't know an open tread would let the rocks into the tread blocks getting rubber to the road or if a soft tire would just conform around the rocks getting rubber to the road... it sounds like the tread is the way to go, and that the shape of the tire is doing more for you than the compound it is comprised of. I have also heard that some tires tread blocks help create a high pressure zone in front of the tire to move dust light sand out of the tires path but it sounds like fiction to me. I think Ill order the road 2's btw my powers have about 3200 on them and seem to have quite a bit of life left other than minimal flat spotting. but what you say makes sense because now that I think about it most of my grip loss is in my rolling transitions. that and straight line breaking... but I think that may be something else entirely.... I swear if somebody even spits on the road the stupid thing locks up on me!! (I am thinking maybe a floating rear disk and a brembo for better modulation maybe? and EBC or lindall gold pads for the front to fix the pulsing in my lever and on my whole bike?) (Message edited by delta one on August 04, 2009) | ||
| Europachris |
I've had BT-021 tires on my 12Ss now for about 350 miles which replaced the OEM Dunlops at about 5500 miles. I'm not an agressive rider, but so far they have much better turn-in, more linear and progressive, than the Dunlops and are much more stable at speed. I've barely broken them in, but I like them! Chris |
