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Bruce1
Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey,

I recently purchased a Race Header and want to know some experienced opinions as to who's muffler to use.

thanks in advance
Bruce
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Snowdave
Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After some initial teething problems, I have been happy with the Buell race muffler. First, I broke a rear mount, but it was my fault for fabbing it out of aluminum instead of steel. Then I broke the front mount, but again I didn't have it fully tightened. Now I have been riding for several thousand miles without any additional problems. I change the packing material every few thousand miles. It's not too much of a hassle. Now if only the muffler sounded as good as the V&H that I have.
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running the Pro-Series to but to what I understand the DnD muffler might give alittle more midrange grunt but I'm very satisfied with what I have none the less.
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Jlaw68
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have been running the d&d for about 6 months now and love it. its chamber instead of glass packed so you don't have to repack it, not to mention that i gained bottom end and mid range hp and torque. oh and it sound GREAT.
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Bruce1
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I apprecaite your responces... Explain chambered, please. Most all of these mufflers are just 'muffling' the noice by sound obsortion by using a straight through tube with perfersted holes in it, with packing.

I'd like to know a bit more or a phone# to be able to call them.

I have considered making my own, :-). I realize there is a tuning aspect to it all, but for top end power we're not looking for much restriction aft of the header...

thanks
Bruce
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Josh
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bruce,
Call up Stainless Specialties in Florida and have them make you a pretty polished stainless one. Great warranty, great looks, great sound (if you really want obnoxious do like I did and get a 3' vs 2.5" outlet), ceramic packing so no repacking, all for $189 + bracket (I think $205 with shipping).

Josh
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Bruce1
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh,

Thanks, do you have a number for them? Any chance you might have a picture you could forward? Was the muffler a standard with a modified 3" outlet?

again thanks...
Bruce
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Josh
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bruce,
they custom make all mufflers, mostly for hot rods. Give them the body length and diameter, inlet length and dia, and outlet length/curve(if any) and dia.
I'll look for contact info but a search of the archives might turn it up. To late to go to the garage now, but an archive search might turn up a pic also.
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Bruce1
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh,

Do you have the info on what you had ordered, lengths, tube diameters, curve/length, braket location, etc. that you could forward me. Did you use the race header and what year is your bike? Any info for me to digest would be appreciated and again thanks.

I'll try a search

sincerely
Bruce
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Josh
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bruce
Links found via a BadWeb search:
pics and discussion of price
another pic and specs

At one point I said
"race muffler has a 2" inlet, the body is 13.5" long, and the diameter is about 4.4" (note that I believe it's slightly oval)"

What bike are you putting it on? You might want to measure how long you need the body to be. From what I can tell, the difference in race mufflers thru the years is angle of the oval and length of the body.

Stainless Specialties
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Bruce1
Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Josh,

I have a 02 M2L(bought in Fall of 01 and now have 9,000 miles on it)lightening cams and (now wish I would have gone with race cams), race ignition(6,800rpm), Force air cleaner, and V&H muffler, now a race header and some muffler. I think I'm going to pull the heads and do some mild bowl area work this spring, maybe springs, titanium retainers, perhaps 1.7 roller rockers? Would like to make 100 rwh!

Need to do some research into a carb, possibly the 44.

We shall see, but for now a muffler with a bit of throat it where I'm headed.

thanks
Bruce
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Josh
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's some posts of mine regarding dyno charts on my bikes incl one showing a 5" SuperTrapp vs the Stainless Specialties.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The race header is longer, where does that move the power band? I keep seeing the race kit on ebay. Almost bought it , but not sure I want it. '01 M2L.
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Tornado
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've also been thinking of buying a race kit for my 99 M2. Can anyone tell me how loud it is in relation to a stock header/Vance and Hines set up?
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Snowdave
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a little louder, sounds more like an H-D, so not as cool as the V&H, but makes several more ponies. V&H for cool factor, race kit for power!
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