| Author | Message | ||
     Fmaxwell |
Short version: Buell front brake switch p.n. Y0810.9 ('04+ XB, '96-'99 Tubers) is the same as: Suzuki 57460-17C01 (installed on my '06 XB12Ss) Suzuki 57460-17C00 Kawasaki 27010-1170 Kawasaki 27010-0025 (I'm almost certain that it crosses to some Honda and Yamaha part numbers, too.) Buell front brake switch p.n. Y0820.9 ('03 XB, '00-02 Tubers) will cross to other switches and I believe Honda used it with a part number of 35340-MM5-600. TAKE YOURS IN AND COMPARE -- THIS IS BY VISUAL ID ONLY. Long version: My front brake switch on my '06 XB12Ss failed. I drilled out the three posts and opened it. Fixed it, but didn't trust that for the long haul. It's small, inexpensive, and failure prone, but the local Buell dealers don't stock it! They wanted to special order it. Not wanting to my bike to be out of commission for 4-5 days while waiting for the part, I did some research online and matched photos against the Buell switch. I purchased the Suzuki part and it was absolutely identical right down to the Alps brand name (and it crosses the the Kawasaki parts in the aftermarket). One connector and one screw -- no need to take out the brake lever pivot screw. Take your brake switch in to make sure the new one matches (you're going to have to remove it anyway and you don't want to ride home without a brake light). I'm all for supporting Buell dealers, but I don't want someone to ride home without brake lights when the part they need is probably in-stock at a local MC dealer. P.S. The Suzuki part cost me about $5 more than Buell sells it for, but I saved that much in gas and had my bike fixed today. (Message edited by fmaxwell on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Americanmadexb |
Thanks. Im going to do this tomorrow. Wait, im confused.. what's the difference in y0820.9 and y0810.9? They the same? (Message edited by americanmadexb on July 14, 2009) | ||
| Coops53233 |
When my front brake switch failed, I noticed it was identical to the one on my roommate's 2001 SV650. Since the local powersports shop was just a couple miles away, i just picked a new one up there and installed it in the parking lot. | ||
| Fmaxwell |
@Coops53233 I must have missed your earlier post about that, because I spent quite a bit of time searching and examining online pictures and part numbers to find out what fit. Once I found out, I figured that I owed it to fellow Buell riders to let them know -- especially given the seriousness of being many miles from home with no brake light when the front brake was applied. | ||
| Coops53233 |
I may or may not have posted about it - it was a couple years ago! For safety sake while riding with a broken front switch, I made sure to apply my rear brake just lightly enough to switch on the light. | ||
| Froggy |
You should be using both your brakes when coming to a stop anyway. Also many older bikes lack a front brake switch.  | ||
| Tpoppa |
You should be using both your brakes when coming to a stop anyway. Umm...why? | ||
| Froggy |
I knew someone wouldn't fail to disappoint me and respond. It is safer, it reduces stopping time, smooths things out, prevents the front brake from pulsing, and the MSF says so. Your turn, why only use one? Of course everything is situational and at times one method will be better than the other. | ||
| 03firebolt |
because buell back brakes suck, haha really i use both, but it kinda feels pointless sometimes, because the back brakes feel like they do nothing but get hot. i use the back brake when i come up on a cop, it doesnt make the front end dip, making it harder to tell im slowing down. | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
I apply front brake only unless I'm on a gravel, dirt, other low traction surface. My thought is that the gyroscopic motion of the wheels is what makes the bike stand up.. So if I lock up the front for some reason, I like the idea that the rear MIGHT offer enough "lift" to keep the bike upright. Of course this only applies to braking in a straight line, any turning when the front skids and ill be F*ked. I only use the rear for holding me at a stoplight (its not even good enough to do that on an incline) and trail braking. That's only my reasoning.. I'm sure lots of you are smarter and have better reasons to do it the msf way. Msf also teaches to hold the front brake as you climb onto the bike.. | ||
| Tpoppa |
After 35k of spirited sport touring, I would estimate the rear pads still had 90%+ left. I use the front brake or engine braking to scrub speed for a tight turn. For an emergency stop or in rain I would use both brakes. | ||
| Coops53233 |
I guess I should have clarified - I use the rear brake regularly when coming to a full stop, especially when the bike is loaded down, when I'm carrying a passenger, or when I have to stop suddenly. On the other hand, I rarely use the rear to simply slow down in moving traffic or when braking into a turn (especially on a 2mi ride to the parts store w/o any stoplights). | ||
| Fmaxwell |
It's all well and good to encourage the use of both brakes, but different situations mean that won't always happen. For example, at a light, I put my right foot down and hold the front brake lever to activate my brake light (which is modulated). I want my foot over the gearshift in case I need to move quickly to avoid being rear-ended. Also, for most of us, our fingers move much faster than our feet, so it's likely that we will hit the front brake a fraction of a second sooner - and I want the brake light on as quickly as possible. | ||
| Teddagreek |
I have a rear brake? | ||
| Fmaxwell |
Not much of one, if it's anything like the one on my Buell. | ||
| Gunut75 |
Maybe I got one of the good rear brakes. Mine works really darn well. Smooth and all.  Maybe the previous owner changed the pads or something, but I can stop twice as fast, and a lot smoother if I use both...............................how peculiar. | ||
| No_rice |
i must have great luck. buells since spring of 04. garage full of them and lots of miles. never replaced a single switch on any of mine. dont even think ive had anyone need one in the 3+ years ive worked here either. hmm. | ||
| Jaimec |
Using the rear brake helps "set up" the front brake as it starts the forward weight shift onto the front wheel. As more weight shifts onto the front, you can release pressure on the rear but that takes a lot of skill and finesse. Best to just keep your foot on the rear brake while concentrating on proper application of the front. Applying the front brake ONLY increases the chance of applying too much brake before the weight shift occurs, causing a front end wash out. This is especially true for those riders who leave two fingers on the front brake at all times. If you clamp on the front brake while you are still accelerating you can and will "chirp" the front tire. If you let go of the brake then no harm, no foul. If you don't... | ||
| Tocramed |
I have never used the front brake; is that what the lever is for on the right side by the throttle grip?  | ||
| Pinoyboyf4i |
+1 on the Suzuki 57460-17C01 part working on an '06 XB12R. Thank you Fmaxwell! |
