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Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 12:43 am: |
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So it's past midnight and I'm starting to get goofy. I've been redoing the Liberty Buell website. It's making me crazy, what I once loved I'm now bored with and can't stand to look at. It just needs freshening up. ANYWAY while I'm planning to add some features, right now I'm working on the overall shell, appearance, framework. If you have a minute, could you take a pop over to the test section and see what you think? No, the links don't really work yet. No, there's no more to see. Just the main page. I'm looking for whether it's visually pleasing, professional looking, and load times. I'm on super-fast cable modem, so sometimes I tend toward large image files that screw up slower connection folk. http://www.libertyharley.com/buell/test/ What do you think? Thanks for your time! ->ChelleM |
Loki
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 12:51 am: |
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Like the look of it. It has a good vibe/feel about it. one thing to ponder, its hard to discern the web addy after the tele number. |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 12:57 am: |
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Hmm. You're right - there should be a bigger space in between probably. Thanks! |
Christiankid3
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 12:58 am: |
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For what's it's worth, here's my $.02: Load time was excellent (seemed to be faster than most pages). Personally, I don't care for the font. It's a bit hard to read and straining on the eyes for me. I'm sure this was intentional, but there is a lot of blue and silver. It doesn't look bad, it's just quite a bit for my taste. The rest looks great to me! I hope that was constructive and that I was nice enough Ryan |
X1_
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:00 am: |
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I like it, the font is different but I like it. Loads great in Chrome also. |
46champ
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:01 am: |
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Loads right up and I've got cheap verizon DSL. Loki is right the letters get hard to read if their are more than five or so at a time. |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:01 am: |
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>>Error: Unable to read footer file. << Like the style. Quick to load. You know what I have been doing lately is moving my clients partly onto Blogger. Set it up and template it for them - and let them run it themselves. Adding content is just like posting to badweb. This only took a few hours to build once the data was available. http://radiusresidential.blogspot.com |
Hexangler
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:08 am: |
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I'd swap the locations of the "Buell American Motorcycles" and the "Liberty Buell" logo. Make it more about your shops take on Buell, than trying to be a subsidiary. |
Ochoa0042
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:09 am: |
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nice. good. an upgrade.
background is similar to buell's, i would say keep it the color you have, but with more 3D effect-shading for it to pop out more ^Hex's^ - Na, maybe a sized-down buell logo, but it looks fine where it is (Message edited by ochoa0042 on July 07, 2009) |
Badlionsfan
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:36 am: |
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I like it, it's the BOLD NEW GRAPHICS of websites. |
Corporatemonkey
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:54 am: |
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Personally, I don't care for the font. It's a bit hard to read and straining on the eyes for me. +1 Especially on the stores address. |
Corporatemonkey
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:55 am: |
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Dave. you need to look into Square Space. http://www.squarespace.com/ They are the latest in creative WYSIWYG web development. |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 02:27 am: |
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Nice. Not worth paying for though. Google and Wordpress are free. I have pretty much the looks and services I wanted. http://krnewsroom.blogspot.com/ http://kiwiridermagazine.blogspot.com |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 03:54 am: |
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Makes my .mac service look 'challenged though. |
Brumbear
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 07:44 am: |
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I like it the blue is easy on the eyes I just sort of relax when I open it up |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 08:14 am: |
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Nice looking site, loads very quickly. Only criticism I have, is as others have pointed out, I find the font very awkward to read & annoying. Apart from that, nice job. |
Xb12xmike
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 08:59 am: |
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I like it overall and is very fast loading. I'd make the top/bottom same size as the ad on the right side. top an bottom look too big and the tab & liberty address fonts are too busy. Less is more imo. I do like your original site, the way the menu stays in the left frame and the body changes with link clicking. Thats efficient but the new site looks alot better. |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 09:19 am: |
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Wow! Thanks for all the comments! And don't worry, I didn't pay for it. At least not directly. I do my websmithing myself with an old version of Frontpage, and a new version of Photoshop. :P That's why it was midnight when I uploaded it. I guess the font is too weird. I wanted something a little different. Maybe not quite THAT different. :P I didn't put the Liberty Buell logo on because, well, technically that logo was never approved, and although it does conform to the guidelines, technically, I just didn't want to bring too much trouble on myself. You'd think they'd have other things to worry about, but I still get emails every so often when I fall out of "guidelines" with marketing. But I'll slide it in somewhere. I'm glad to hear it's loading well! My old version of Frontpage says things like "74 seconds at 28.8" to warn me that my page is too big. BUT I think probably there aren't THAT many people out there still on 28.8, so it's of very little value to me. Plus it doesn't really take into consideration that for most people once you load a graphic, then the next page with the same graphics loads faster. Bah! Still, you can't really beat the price. >>Error unable to read footer file<< Does anyone know what the hell this is? There's nothing missing from the page itself, and I don't have a footer file. That I know of. It's also on my Liberty page for some reason. I have no idea what it means. Very weird. Thanks for all the great suggestions! I'm going to see if I can find a BOLD font that's a little clearer. >P',',', ->ChelleM |
Odinbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 09:20 am: |
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I like it! I'm a bit biased, but I like it! |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 09:32 am: |
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I do like your original site, the way the menu stays in the left frame and the body changes with link clicking. Thats efficient but the new site looks alot better. I still plan to put a sub-menu in the left side, so the basic setup will be similar. I just haven't finished working out all the content. Some is embarassingly outdated, and I have some new ideas, so that big blank spot on the left will have words of some sort in it. And that image on the bottom is just one I found and threw up there real quick. I liked the message. (It's actually a copy/paste of a hangtag from the marketing site that I'm supposed to put on motorcycles in the showroom. When I made it smaller, I couldn't see the words anymore. Boo.) Oh well. Time for my day job now. ->ChelleM |
Bott
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 10:08 am: |
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worked well enough to get a small sale outta me,so at the very least "mission accomplished" (but I do agree-the font is truly hard on the eyes) thumbs up , Madam! |
P_squared
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 10:16 am: |
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Other than the font everyone has already pointed out, it looks sharp. Don't know if this is what's giving you the 'footer' error or not, but if it is, hope it helps: <!--webbot> </td> </tr> </table> </center> </div> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> </body> </html>Error: Unable to read footer file. |
P_squared
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 10:18 am: |
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Maybe this line in the html as well: !--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="_includes/footer.htm" TAG="BODY" startspan -- |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 10:19 am: |
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worked well enough to get a small sale outta me,so at the very least "mission accomplished" That's so funny! Guess I'm glad I took the time to test the buttons with live links! :P Thanks! I guess my mission for tonite's midnight run will be the trolling the free font sites. :P |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 10:27 am: |
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PSquared - yeah, those words, that error, doesn't actually appear on my side - that is, in the local version on my PC before I upload. I do have a section called "footer.htm" but it's there, and working. It's something in frontpage called Included files, so I can update the one file and it spreads out to the rest of the site. neat. I think this must be something thats happening server side with frontpage. It's quirky. Maybe it's looking for too many footers. I don't know. Quirky. At least if I could find the text locally I could make the font really really small. :P ->ChelleM |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 10:44 am: |
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>>frontpage.<< If you want code that will screw up consistently - that's your baby. Unless you are looking at it on Windows and MS Explorer it 'probably' won't work as expected. |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 10:49 am: |
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That should say 'entirely' as expected. |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 11:06 am: |
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The problems I've had to fix have been with the way frontpage does markup - and layers. It goes flakey on some browsers and OS. Here's the breakdown of last 2000 browsers that have visited Kiwirider. Internet Explorer 34.25% Mozilla Compatible Agent 24.51% Firefox 17.31% msnbot 8.34% Safari 7.00% Netscape 1.78% msnbot media 0.95% Google 0.89% I've just had to go through the code and find the frontpage specific tags and work around them. If you have imported text from word that can further complicate the styles issues. Some extraneous word tags could even be giving the footer error. Happy coot ain't I. (Message edited by danger_dave on July 07, 2009) |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 11:20 am: |
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Yeah, I've been working with Frontpage long enough to have identified quite a few problems with various browsers. Thankfully, most of them have to do with formatting, and can be touched up with a bit of manual html. Esp. since my version is also outdated - so a lot of the inline CSS code with "div" is still using old html markup, which seems to give, what I have to call "random" weirdness. Don't get me started on Frontpage ASP quirkiness. Argh. I gave up on layers with Frontpage. I just caved. But the Included Content feature is very nice - as long as I build the template properly, I can change the side menu on the whole site just by changing it on the included page. I gotta admit, that was one of those epiphany days. :P I just added some links to the left so that one can see how the links section will look. Just threw a few up for effect, with a little blurred line separator. http://www.libertyharley.com/buell/test/ That font thing will have to wait until tonight though. I should be working on bookkeeping crap even as we speak. ~By day, mild-mannered controller, balancing checkbooks and auditing suspense entries. But by night - web designer, online tweeter and facebook junky, known only as... ->ChelleM |
Court
| Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 01:28 pm: |
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>>>known only as... . . .MOM! Change the font on the address. Amazing how many times I want to call a dealer, go to search on my mobile device and can't read/can't find the phone number. Make it EASY to contact you. |
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