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Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 08:38 pm: | 
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Shipping is a variable cost. A car shipped in January might cost less than one shipped in July.
Build a house and the cost of lumber might change the price of the end build before you are finished.
The fixed costs are what the dealer pays. The rest are variable costs that must be flexible by dealer and by deal.
What if the state documentation fees change?
What if the tax rates change?
What if the title and license fees change?
What if the cost to ship the bike to the dealer changes?
What if the hourly rate of the labor to do the post manufacture, pre-sale work up changes?
The dealer can't eat ALL the increases and still make money. The buyer has to pay the costs plus a relatively small profit for the dealer's margin.
Furthermore, what if the cost of electricity to run the dealership changes? What if the lease for the land the dealership is on changes? What if the property taxes for the dealership go up? What if interest rates go up? What if demand goes down?
There are more variables in a vehicle deal than in buying a gallon of milk.
RBJ, my apologies. I am simply trying to help those who question the deal as "fair" and then in the same breath bitch about the lack of Buell enthusiastic stand alone dealers.
People what a top of the line bike at rock bottom prices and want the dealer to make $100 per bike. It's just not a workable financial model.
What would the bargain buyers consider a "reasonable" profit above dealer cost? |
Krassh
| | Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 09:45 pm: |
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I should not be surprised by the way Buell's depreciate after the 3 I have owned.
I paid MSRP for the 1125R. I was so upside down after I lost my job in March it went back to the bank. No way to sell it.
I paid MSRP on the Harley. Same scenario.
I paid $10,500 shipped to my door on a $12,995 MSRP KTM 950R Super Enduro.
I kept it because the payment is doable and if I have to sell it I can easily sell it for what I owe on it. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 02:23 am: |
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KTMs don't depreciate as much because they are hard to get. Good luck finding one in the color or model you want.
HDs used to be the same way when you had to get on a waiting list to get one. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 02:54 am: |
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As long as it is orange it is the right color for me.
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Krassh
| | Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 03:35 am: |
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It was fairly easy to find the one I wanted.
Local Dealer in SoCal did not want to deal on price.
So went to Ktmtalk and clicked on the get a quote button.
Request went out to dealers across the country.
Another cool thing about the newer KTM's is they are 50 state legal.
So I received offers from as far away as PA and FL.
Ended up going with a dealer in Arizona who actually sent someone in a pickup truck to deliver the bike to my door.
Handed the driver the down payment and signed my papers.
Easiest vehicle purchase I have ever experienced. |
Ducdood9
| | Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 01:08 am: |
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Krassh
Well done! and sexy ass bike! |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 01:52 am: |
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The local KTM dealer had 6 models on the floor including one street bike, the SD, but allowed NO test rides of any kind and wasn't willing to deal on price.
You can do the same price quote system with Buell as well. It just isn't centralized.
Around here KTMs don't depreciate because if you can get one, someone else probably can't. |
Froggy
| | Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 07:03 pm: |
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KTM won't let me test ride at a DEMO event because I was only 21 at the time. Apparently being 21 means I will crash their bikes. Funny thing was, someone that was older than me wrecked that weekend. Oh well I guess thats why I haven't bought a KTM yet. |
