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Pilk
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

15bucks!!!!
I was stupid 104$ is what I gave the dealer.
BTW that was before I found this site.
Pilk
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Buellbob
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave
1997 S3T with Vance&Hines slip-on. I also painted the breadbox the same color.Oh and I had the pipes ceramic coated. I guess its not a factory stock bike anymore.
Bob
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Clay
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On a '00 M2, is it necessary to loosen the upper engine mount to remove the middle spacer and lower rocker box assembley on the front cylinder? I don't see any other way of doing it. That baby is right next to the mount and won't hardly move upwards more than a couple of millimeters. First time doing the leak fix. I got the Cometic gasket kit. Anything else I should be"improving" to prevent/minimize future leaks?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clay... Nope. I did the job on my 00 M2, you don't have to pull it. It will wiggle out without resistance if you stare at it long enough.

Court can scare up a milk crate for you if you need a place to sit and stare at it for a while.
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clay,
Think of it as a puzzle. Remove your horn as that can confuse the solution. There is a way it comes out, just takes a bit of gentle wiggle and tilting. Some of the wiring may also have to be gently nudged aside. It can be done. The second time is easier than the first. ;)
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And by the 3rd or 4th time you will be able to do it blindfolded & with 1 hand.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That front brake caliper is the same thing... I tried for half an hour with no luck whatsoever, and had myself convinced that there is no way it can be removed. I tried everything.

Then I went in for lunch, checked the archives here that said it was possible, walked back to the garage, and had it out in the palm of my hand in 5 minutes.

I still don't know how I did it. It just worked. A great mystery.
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>I still don't know how

You have a milk crate?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I still don't know how I did it. It just worked. A great mystery."

I had the same experience with the front caliper. The only advice I have is to tape the wheel with duct tape to keep from scratching it.

I still don't know how it came off or went back on..., it just did.
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was wonder if someone can help me out real quick? I am trying to order a part from my Buell and the dealship is having a little trouble. I need the part number for the bolt (seat post?) that attaches under the seat that holds the seat in place (used the one off my stock seat on my corbin). 2001 S3T.

Jim
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Court
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blame not they dealer....the Pin is NOT shown in the ILLUSTRATION in the parts manual. You are looking for a:
52375-97Y

52375-97Y - P/N

52375-97Y - Pic
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,

No blame to the dealer at all. He was just as confused as I was!

Thanks for the info! If you ever make it back out here to the Northwest I owe you a drink of your choice!

Jim
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Pdxs3t
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just called the dealer got it ordered!

Thanks again Court!

Jim
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Iamike
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dyna, Dyna, Dyna-
Such negativitity, I replaced the gaskets myself 20kmi. ago with no leaks since. I don't consider myself a mechanic.
Speaking of mechanics, when I was in high school a buddy and I decided to take auto mechanics to learn a little more about cars. We were the only two in class that weren't planning on working as a mechanic when we got out of school.
After we both got A's and the rest of them got C's, we looked at each other and wondered if we wanted them working on our cars.
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Ray_Maines
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike, I think you're pretty close to one of the great truths of the universe. Something like, if your smart enough to do the job you probably have a better job already. I'm sure it has something to do with the Peter Principle but I'm not sure just how.
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Apex1
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know where to find a tank bra for my Lightning XB9S? The Buell web site has the same part number for both the 03 XB's & it's got the Firebolt logo embroidered on it. I've checked Lockhart Phillips and Targa to no avail. Anything of the sort made to fit the Firebolt will work, I just don't know if anyone else is makin' em right now besides Buell. Thanks in advance for any suggestions/ recommendations.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tank bras suck. Wear a smaller belt buckle. ;)

Besides, you mean, airbox bra right?
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Captpete
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Philly,

Not only is that shop recognizable, but the time the picture was taken can be roughly determined by the fact that "Court's barrel" is still in one piece.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ever get just a tremendous feeling of "positivity"?

There's a strong convergance of positive force in the process of being focused like a laser in a lens me thinks......

Court
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Crosmyn
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Apex1,

Bagster makes one with mounting points for a tankbag built in. Kinda pricey though. I should be able to give you a review in a couple of weeks.
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Rick_A
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not just the belt buckle...a jacket zipper can scratch the tank or cover too. You can get any number of universal tank protectors from any number of vendors, though
...and bras do suck...at least on vehicles.
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Andrewb
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you could try the 3m stone guard clear . I applied a piece to the belt rub area and a piece where my tank bag rests. I purchased some from the Wm of triumphnet.net.
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Fly
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am researching possible rides in IL and WI that will utilize less traveled back roads and “off the beaten path” types of routes, searching for maximum twisted fun factor along the way. But I’m having difficulty locating detailed local and regional maps that are easy to access, affordable and reproducible. Maps with resolution of about 2 miles per inch would be great. Local county maps and Platt of Survey seem to be close to what I’m looking for, but they are difficult to obtain. MapQuest doesn’t produce the “big” (e.g 100 square mile) detailed map I’m looking for.

Can anyone suggest source of such maps? CD-ROM? Web sites? Specific library documents? Any suggestions would help. For instance, what did Buell use to print routes for Homecoming 2000 and 2001 ride brochures?
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fly,
Try here. There are a series of maps showing lots of the secondary roads in WIsconsin put out by the WI Bicycle Federation and sold through many bicycle shops up here. May not be at the scale you want though. There is also a large-format mapbook put out by DeLorme or someone that I see in a lot of angler's pickups and that I have a copy of at home that also shows lots of the secondary roads. I know that last year Lake_Bueller and Blastin were looking into maps for the home-brewed Homecoming and one or both of them had found some good sources. There is also the Milwaukee Map Store (or some name like that) on highway-100 just north of I-94 and south of the Mayfair Mall that should have what you're looking for as well.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Delorme Street Atlas USA has an odd user interface, but once you get the hang of it, it works pretty well. It will drill down to a highly detailed level, and you can throw a $110 gps on a laptop while you run it and get some very cool realtime tracking and features.

For another $40 or so on top of that, you can add Delorme X-Map, and download a trip and maps you plot on the main Delorme application to a Palm Pilot, or a Pocket PC, which will then sit in a tank bag and again do real time updates while you travel.

I had this rigged up whilst strafing Deals Gap. It has VERY detailed maps, and was VERY cool, I could see at a glance if the upcoming blind corner was just a short curve, or a full pucker 180 degree hairpin. All I need is a heads up display!

Garmin and others make more nicely integrated units that would work better on the bike then a PDA wired to a GPS antennae, but they are harder to use and a lot less flexible, and a LOT more expensive. For the price of one of those units, I could buy a nice compact IBM Thinkpad, a GPS antennae, all the Delorme software, a usable PDA to connect to it, and still probably have $200 in my pocket.

I use this whole setup to plot trips all the time. Just fire up the laptop, scroll a direction and start connecting all the squiggly lines. It has made for some fantastic rides that I NEVER would have managed to find, much less be able to follow, without the computer based tools.
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Kinger
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fly,

I am not sure who makes it but there is a county by county map of WI available. I believe that it shows all kinds of secondary roads. I will try and find some more info on it.
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Jim_Witt
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bill mentioned:

Delorme Street Atlas USA has an odd user interface, but once you get the hang of it, it works pretty well. It will drill down to a highly detailed level ......


Agreed!

-JW:>;)
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Garmin and others make more nicely integrated units that would work better on the bike

We need to talk...tell me what your "Ultimate On-Board Nav System" would look like. We may need to start a quick board topic if Blake catches us.

MAPS: First, go to Aerostich and buy that big-ass red book. I have them for NY, NY, NV, CA and UT. Very helpful.

I have, I think, buried under the car seat some old Walworth County maps if you need them. Careful, you could get run over by Buells test riders :)

Court
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The key problem is that any device with a nice enough user interface to comfortably examine maps and plot trips (1024x768 display MINIMUM)... is way too big for mounting on a bike, or even for unobtrusive use in a car. Any device that is small and compact enough for bike / unobtrusive car use is LOUSY for trying to look at a map.

This is not a new problem... and Palm Computing figured this out a long time ago. The PDA should be an extension of a desktop/laptop, not a replacement for it. Microsoft is just now figuring this out... they keep trying to make really little laptops, which makes them lousy laptops and lousy pda's.

The PDA / GPS solution uses this same proven philosophy. Do the heavy lifting on a desktop, or even a laptop (easy to get one that will only occupy about the bottom inch in your tail bag for $400 or less... look for a thinkpad 570 PII-333 or PII366 on eBay). If you need to replot, find a nice place to sit down / have coffee / stretch out, whip out the laptop, plot a new route, download it to the PDA, and go back on your way.

On the motorcycle, I run it with my HandEra 330 or my TRG Pro (both palm platforms) sitting atop the tank, and generally plot everything ahead of time so I don't need the laptop. For quick trips in the car, I also use the PDA. For serious road trips in the car, I use the laptop directly, as I am probably listening to mp3 books on tape anyway, and I like the voice prompts for upcoming turns and the detailed, updated in real time, list of directions (miles and time to each turn, updated every few seconds). The high resolution color animated map as I drive is fun as well. Its more for fun though, the PDA solution is plenty useful, as it shows your next turn and a decent (though smaller) animated map.

First the software:

Here is the XMap software. This package allows you to plot routes, find locations (basically I think can find anything in any phone book, you can even search by topic, i.e. find everything that mentions Harley Davidson within a 100 mile radius of map center). It has a Windows program to do the searching and plot the routes, and a PDA component that runs on the PDA. You do all the heavy lifting on the desktop/laptop, and just download the important parts to the PDA.

http://www.delorme.com/xmaphandheld/default.asp

XMap just allows you to plot routes to be downloaded to the PDA. If you want to be able to navigate in real time from the laptop (connect the laptop to the GPS and not use the PDA), you will need another package, which is also pretty nice:

http://www.delorme.com/streetatlas2003/default.asp

Again, both have their warts, and diverge from the normal windows user interface, but they don't take long to adapt to and are useful in their own way.

That covers the software. Now you need hardware.

XMap claims to work with newer Pocket PC devices, and some older wince devices. It also works with a lot of Palm devices, especially ones that sync through a serial port. I use mine with a TRG Pro and a HandEra 330. HandEra looks to be getting out of the PDA business, and is closing out some very nice units for $150. Note you have to cover one of the pins on the cable to get the old serial Delorme Earthmate to work with the HE330, email me and I will give you the details.

It should also work with the new color high resolution sony devices as well, so long as you can get them to talk to your GPS. I don't have any firsthand experience, but I bet you could get them to work with the right cable.

The XMap software claims to work with most GPS receivers. I use it with the old serial Delorme earthmate, as it is compatible with everything I own and dirt cheap. Note that it does NOT have a built in display, so if that matters to you get some other device.

http://www.delorme.com/bargains/earthmate/moreinfo.asp

Delorme is about to come out with another earthmate (niow USB) that sounds very nice, but I don't know how long it will take before it works well with PDA's and XMap. Probably not long, and the new earthmate has a lot of nice features. As it is USB, it is more likely to work with the Sony Palm based PDA's, and the USB Pocket PC's. It also claims to have bluetooth support, but between waiting for them to get it right, microsoft to get it right, and the Pocket PC hardware makers to get it right.. I would not hold my breath.

http://www.delorme.com/earthmate/

Its a nice flexible little package, though it has a lot of complexity and cables can be annoying, and you have some packaging issues to work out (mounting the laptop or PDA in your car or the PDA on your bike).

You also have some power management issues. Unless you have a $25 inverter feeding the AC on your laptop, it generally won't last long on a trip. The PDA's take a hard hit doing all that serial communication as well, my Palm will toast a pair of AAA NiMh batteries in three to five hours. The actual GPS receivers vary, my earthmate runs on 4 AAA NiMh batteries for about 7 hours. The earthmate can be easily wired to run off external power (5 volts on pin 9 of the cable), the PDA's can as well (but with a little more work). My HandEra 330 (takes 4 AAA's instead of 2) does much better then my TRG-Pro (like a palm IIIx but with a compact flash slot).

Weatherproofing would be an issue with packaging as well, but you can buy things like the otter box that will address that. You could probably just get away with a few ziplock bags and putting it under the map cover on your tank bag. The whole system (PDA and GPS) could be completely contained in a single ziplock freezer bag with room to spare.

The PDA memory is limited, so while the route is shown in good detail, complete with turns, the rest of the map is not shown. If you get off route, you just get an arrow pointing you back on track. You can download detailed maps, but they start taking up space fast. Devices like the Sony, the TRG Pro, and the HandEra 330 allow you to store data on external memory (memory stick or compact flash), so you could store maps there, but memory would be expensive. I put the extended area of Cincinati on mine, and I think it ended up about 8 megabytes. In theory you can route on the device (door to door directions), but the Palm CPU's are so slow they would take way to long to calculate it (like half an hour for even a simple route). The Pocket PC devices would probably be better, but a cheap and portable laptop is even better then that (and probably cheaper).

The elaborate integrated units that have the GPS antennae, the maps, and the routing software all built in are nice, much more integrated, much easier to mount, but are a lot less flexible. I want my GPS reciever way out on the front or back dash for the best signal, but I want my display closer to my eyes on near a vent on the dash. An integrated unit would require an external antenna for this, which then negates the advantage it has of not stringing cables around. Also, the laptop and PDA are useful for many other things, and you may already have or want them anyway. Finally, the integrated units were (last time I checked) $1000, and I can put together a system like that for myself from scratch for half that. Also, with Delorme, you can get updates yearly for some flat price ($39 or something) that give you the latest greatest map data, and install is a breeze. Don't know how much of a hassle it is to update the embedded integrated devices, or if it can be done at all.

So that's it in a nutshell. With decent 1024x768 laptops coming down in the $350 range, good palm based PDA's coming down to the $200 range, and good GPS units hitting the $150 range, a lot of stuff that used to be just wild dreaming is looking pretty cost effective, even if you get it for just dedicated GPS use.

It's definately a project though, and not for people that don't enjoy diddling around with computers and electronics. It is FAR from being an appliance. The integrated units are closer, but I still doubt the average non technical consumer would be able to operate them very effectively.

Bill
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

one more thing... I am not advocating the Delorme products as the best, there are some annoyances with how often they charge for updated data ($40 or so yearly, which I think is either too much or too often), and the GPS interface to my laptop sometimes gets a little confused until you reboot (only on startup though, once it has a lock it does well).

It is however the only package I could find that understands the way PDA's work really well, which is using the PDA as an extension of a Desktop.

There may be other better solutions out there, it has been over a year since I looked. There are probably better receivers then the Delorme unit as well, but I got it bundled with all necessary cables and software cheap, and it works "well enough" until I stumble across a compelling alternative. Feel free to point me in that direction if anyone knows of one.
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