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Avc8130
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Took the new to me 1125 out for a quick romp around the block and I noticed the left mirror jiggles a lot more than the right. The mirror seems loose where the upper assembly attaches to the support stalk. Is there any adjustment for this or should I ask Liberty to look into it when they do the brake recall?
ac
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are about to loose the mirror glass. It will fall out shortly.
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Avc8130
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess I really didn't need it anyways? LOL
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Ponti1
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pull back the rubber surround and put a few drops of spray adhesive in the joint where the mirror base meets the stalk. That was someone's suggestion a while back, and it worked for me.
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Avc8130
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ponti,
Is that for the upper or lower connection? My left one jiggles around the ball joint at the top.
No experience with them blowing towards me...yet.
ac
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Avc,

Is it the *glass* of the mirror that's jiggling, or the whole stalk of the mirror base?

I've had the *glass* of the mirror fall out twice in my 34,000 miles. What happens is the ball joint that holds the glass into the mirror assembly breaks around the base.

There's no repair for this -- the mirror glass just disappears one day, leaving a blank stalk and blinker! You can't get up in there where the break happens.

It starts by the glass not holding position well, progresses to the mirror glass shaking a lot, and then it starts to simply flop loose around until one day it disappears.
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Avc8130
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jdugger,
It is actually the whole piece (signal/glass/plastic) jiggling around the stalk.
ac
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Spectrum
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a riveted joint in the stalk. Some have reported this joint being too loose and solution was to replace the mirror.

Also common mistake is to try and adjust the mirror using the stalk. The movement in the stalk is to prevent the stalk from breaking, not to adjust the mirror. Position the mirror housing so the the stalk pivot is at it's stop (mirror housing pulled toward the rider). Then adjust the mirror by moving it inside the housing. This is done by using your thumbs on the mirror while holding the housing.


There is not much adjustment in the mirror and if the housing isn't at the pivot stop closest to the rider, you will have a lot of movement.
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine fold back at speed, so I'm always adjusting the stalks. Not that it matters much, anyway. Even at max extension, I'm treated to not much else but a blurry view of my biceps in the mirrors. Using them to see what's behind me requires some contortion.
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Dipstick
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Run a thin bead of Black RTV around the edge of the mirror and smooth it out against the mirror housing.

This eliminated most of the vibration on my 1125R and you will be able to see much farther behind you.

Several 1125R riders have done this with good results.
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Avc8130
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think you guys are following...the mirror glass itself is not the issue. The actual mirror/signal/plastic housing is wobbling. It wobbles around the stalk joint. NOT the joint between the stalk and the mount either.
ac
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Ponti1
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ponti,
Is that for the upper or lower connection? My left one jiggles around the ball joint at the top.
No experience with them blowing towards me...yet.
ac

My mistake...I was referring to the joint at the bottom. I haven't seen/heard of the issue you've got.
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Buellhist_monk
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Avc8130

Just got back from a ride, remembered this thread and here I am. Mine is doing the exact same thing. The plastic mirror housing is loose, at the top joint, were the metal arm goes into the plastic mirror housing. I pulled back the rubber but didn't see any means of tightening the assembly. I'll look in the service manual to see if it can come apart. My right mirror is also fine, so far.

Just checked the manual. "Turn signals are non-repairable. Replace turn signal with mirror."
This isn't a direct quote, word for word, just the meaning. The manual then just shows removing the mirror like you would expect. Throw the whole stalk/turn signal out, funny. Good old American consumerism, just throw it away, buy a new one.
I'll be putting epoxy around that joint. It doesnt have any adjustment anyway.

(Message edited by Buellhist_monk on June 23, 2009)
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Buellhist_monk
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before I epoxy... I shined a light behind the mirror, there is a brass nut holding the plastic assembly to the arm. Does anyone know if I could pop the mirror off and get to this bolt for tightening?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are several places where the assembly is screwed together.
To dis-assemble the mirror, first remove it from the bike.
Put the glass in a pot of boiling water for a minute or two to release the adhesive.
CAREFULLY lift the glass off the adhesive sheet, re-dip in the hot water if it gets difficult.
Remove the phillips screw at the center and remove the glass carrier.
Put the carrier on a flat surface or it will warp as it cools.
You now have access to the big nut that holds the body to the arm.

I sold all mine and have Firebolt mirrors on Loretta - they work great.

Zack
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Buellhist_monk
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zack, Thanks for the info. Will definitely try what you suggest. Sounds like I'll need double sided tape for the reassembly.

Kevin
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, you will.
Pick something very sticky.
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Buellhist_monk
Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In an attempt to avoid steaming my LEDs to death and a warped mirror holder, Acetone.

Acetone eats adhesive. And as it turns out plastic also gets eaten.

I'll try boiling water now.
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