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Slipknot
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I recall that there were auto adjusters for
HD Sportsters and I was wondering if anyone has tried on on their Buell??
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Slipknot
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the primary chain.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Search the archives and you can find some posts. From all indications they did NOT work, at all.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Come standard on Harley big twins and I have one on my 97 Electraglide Classic that I put in myself. Really makes shifting more of a click than a clunk. Love it and mine has worked fine in the glide for about 40,000 miles. Wish they came on our primaries but they don't.
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Will547_us
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used the Hayden M6 on my S-1 for years no problems whatsoever.

http://www.haydensm6.com/pdf/xl5.pdf

Cheers, Will
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Werewulf
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they have been cursing some of them on the harley forum...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I found an old post by Al Lighton where he said it seems 50% of the users love them and 50% of the users say they are absolute junk.

I don't think they make them any more.
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The new style that Harley developed is a piece of art and works great in my Geezer Glide but the Uly is a totally different animal in it's design. The ones for the tube framers won't work in the XB's from what I remember reading. Then again I'm over 50 so who knows if I'm remembering correctly!!
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Doncasto
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I played around with the Hayden M6 on my 1998 S3T for a while. It seemed to work reasonably well for about 5000 miles. At that point the spring began to weaken and the primary chain began eating into the primary cover. I decided it was less bothersome to check the primary tension the "old fashioned way" with each oil change . . .as opposed to pulling the whole thing apart for a new spring every 5000 miles.

There was another auto tension on the market at that time that seemed to have a better idea. It used a fluid dampening system. At the time it was not available for XL motors . . .only big twins.

YMMV

(Message edited by doncasto on June 09, 2009)
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've watched the Hayden work on my 97 Electraglide. The shoe moves up and down in relation to the tension on the primary chain pushing against the spring loaded shoe. I kid you not, it really takes the clunk out of the shifting. Mine never caused any problem whatsoever and is still working today after more than 10 years of service. If I was just putting one in today on the Electraglide I would purchase the Harley one since it cost only about 100 bucks.

(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on June 09, 2009)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The question is why is it apparently harder to make an auto adjuster work on a Sportster/Buell primary than it is on a Big Twin?
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's the way they mount. On the X's the shoe is pushed up from the bottom. On a Big Twin it is bolted to the back of the inner primary. I had a Hayden M6 and it worked with no problems. After your chain stretches you have to add more shim to keep the 5/8" adjustment at the bottom. When I put a Baker 6 speed in the Geezer Glide the Hayden would not mate well with the larger crank sprocket. The angle had increased to where the plastic shoe was not radiused enough and it looked like it might bind up from side pressure. The new style Harley is totally different and pivots on the leading edge and not only spring loaded but it ratchets too. Excellent design IMO. I'm afraid the Buell would require a totally different design.
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