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Duggram
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We're screwed! Can you imagine the whining there's gonna be now?

Amazingly in practice today at Road America the fastest lap time was by Zemke, but he was only 20th in trap speed.

Lap times

Trap speeds
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Sd26
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not uncommon. Check out Rossi's top speed and pole times. Similarly, do that with Mladin too. It's always about getting to the checker first.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like a fair mix to me.
6 brands in the top ten lap times.
5 brands in the top ten trap speeds.

Did you notice Mladin was #10 on the trap speed chart? Down by 5 MPH!!!
I guess the rules are just too screwed up to allow him to compete.

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Sd26
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go look back at trap speeds from years before. Mat's generally never been the fastest. I mean, it wasn't anything regular.
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Sd26
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For DS, it's pretty wild that Hacking and Eslick didn't even make it into Superpole.

Hoping for Bobby Fong to do well. Nice guy.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where is Shawn Higbee? Did I miss something?
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Snowscum
Posted on Friday, June 05, 2009 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AMA Pro has disallowed the times from, Erion Honda's Jake Zemke and Chris Peris, who had qualified first and third in Superpole.

That means M4 Suzuki teammates Jason DiSalvo and Martin Cardenas both move up. DiSalvo now has his fourth Daytona SportBike pole in a row.

Zemke and Peris will be allowed to qualify tomorrow.

We're hearing the reason was fuel irregularities.
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trap speeds published are being taken at the top of the hill and are slower than the actual top speeds. I have no idea why they are doing it that way. The Buells are getting a great driver off the last corner and the torque helps them up the hill. But the Aprilias are actually the fastest (about 8 mph faster than the Buells), and the Hondas were only 1 mph off the Aprilias. The actual top speeds are found at the end of the back straight.
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So it is as I suspected the 1125R fairing isn't that aerodynamic as a race bike, (disclaimer here not talking about street use). This means the 1198RR with full fairing will need a new version of the XBRR or better yet RR1000 fairing modified to use side mounted radiators. Anyone care to photo stop this?
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The_hammer
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It sounds like they are measuring Trap Speed at the Start/Finish line. Why ???

Where is the Best place online to get most recent updates in todays qualifying and racing?

Still considering making the trip for tomorrow (Weather, $$, etc.).

Good luck to ALL the guys representing Buell.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"So it is as I suspected the 1125R fairing isn't that aerodynamic as a race bike..."

?? A huge assumption based on some pretty sketchy information from a road race track.
Gearing? Rev range? Power band shape? Rev limiter? Over rev characteristics?...

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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where is the Best place online to get most recent updates in todays qualifying and racing?

Summaries on http://www.roadracingworld.com

AMA Live Timing: http://206.168.146.116/ (you have to select Road Racing - they are also running an AMA Moto-X race today)
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Snowscum
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shawn is running 10th!

(Message edited by snowscum on June 06, 2009)
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Elvis
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aaaaaaaah!!! Looks like Shawn crashed on the last lap after putting in what seemed guaranteed to be the best Buell Superbike finish ever.

But it looks like he was able to get back on and finish because he's listed as having 13 laps in at 18th place.

It looks like Taylor Knapp also crashed. Hopefully both were minor and they'll both still be able to race Sportbike.
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Elvis
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

. . . congratulations also to James Gang/Hoban brothers for the win in Moto GT1!

And to Liberty waves for the 3rd place.
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Elvis
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like Shawn and Taylor are both running Sportbike! The wet conditions could make things very interesting and should help the Buells.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shawn is there with both his bikes so if the Superbike isn't race-able, the DSB still is. Hope he's OK -

(Message edited by slaughter on June 06, 2009)
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Dbird29
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

4 Buells in the top 10.
Not bad.
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Ebear
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats EXCELLENT guys!!!..I cant wait to see THIS race on TV!!




I'm curious though how long before they test Chris Peris's gas in his Sportbike?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very cool today!

And . . in addition to "cool" it was darn cold at 48oF and fairly heavy rain.

Congratulations to the Buell racers for a great showing . . . and best of luck tomorrow. The weather is looking a bit better for tomorrow and don't forget Daytona Sportbikes take the grid at 12:46 PM.
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Smoke
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GOOD LUCK RACERS!!
tim
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Smoke
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GOOD LUCK RACERS!!
tim
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