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Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:52 am: |
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Hey guys, I posted this in the Xboard, but you guys looks smarter. I want to put a vacuum gauge on my 06 XB, what would I tap into for the vacuum source? |
Etennuly
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 01:09 am: |
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There was a vacuum tube that was open on a friends '06 Uly, it was on the right side of the throttle body assy sticking up. I don't know what it was there for. But his bike runs much better since we plugged it. |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 01:15 am: |
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Hogs suggested that too. Thats where the carbon canister connects. It normally is capped on the 49 state bikes. |
Tq_freak
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:50 pm: |
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Froggy, that is going to be your best bet with out drilling and taping a port in the intake manifold. I think it can be seen with the inner airbox bottom removed. What do you need the vacuum gauge for? |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 01:18 pm: |
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Trying to use a vacuum based fuel economy gauge. I want to break my 75mpg record, and every little tweak will help. I already am working on getting a custom aerodynamic fairing that includes covering the whole bike.
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Ourdee
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 01:51 pm: |
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Froggy, It is a slippery slope you travel. Here are a lot of ideas: http://www.recumbents.com/home.asp?URL=wisil/whatsup.htm#Fairing Building Projects I got caught up in it for a long time. Most interesting is the Varna: http://www.recumbents.com/home.asp?URL=wisil/whatsup.htm#Fairing Building Projects
One more link: http://www.recumbents.com/home.asp?URL=wisil/whatsup.htm#Fairing Building Projects |
Rwven
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 01:56 pm: |
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How much of an effect does manifold vacuum have on fuel delivery in a fuel injected motor? It's not like you are sucking fuel through a port in a venturi like a carburated motor. |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 02:28 pm: |
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Ourdee, thank you, some good stuff there! Rwven, not sure, that was one of my concerns too, but I got no better way to monitor fuel consumption on the fly. I even got my race computer to estimate consumption, but it can be way off depending on my riding. |
Rwven
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 03:21 pm: |
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Since the fuel is metered electronically it is possible to design a readout of fuel consumption. How to actually do that is way above my pay grade. |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 03:49 pm: |
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Mine too. I am sure if anything, it can be done with ECMspy, but I am dead in the water after that. I will play around with it more and see if I can figure out something. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 07:04 pm: |
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You may want to modify the signal the O2 sensor sends. You can put off the engine lean knock by adding steam to the intake side. Problem is that the O2 sensor will read this as oxygen and try to add fuel back in. So, you have to further modify the O2 signal. Same thing happens when you try to free hydrogen and oxygen from water with electricity into the intake. There are some ways to get some serious mileage out of an engine on very little fuel, it depends on how serious you want to get. |
Tootal
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 07:31 pm: |
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Sounds like your trying to ride your bike so it doesn't SUCK so much!?
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Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 07:38 pm: |
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Over time I will see how serious I can get. I just love riding with the Jap bike guys, and when they stop for gas I am parked on the side for 2 out of the 3 fillups (assuming their asses don't hurt after the first 20 miles of riding). I am thinking of adding an extra tank too eventually, the short 240ish miles before the gas light comes on kills me. I know some BMW guys that can go about 600 miles a tank right from the factory. |
Tootal
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 07:46 pm: |
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Mine ran out completely today at 190 miles! Two blocks after I passed a station! |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:08 pm: |
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I know some BMW guys that can go about 600 miles a tank right from the factory. That's pretty impressive... which bikes would those be I'm wondering? |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:12 pm: |
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One of the super duper espresso maker equipped models has a 9.5 gallon tank. |
Davo
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:58 pm: |
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froggy, Most of my experience with a vacuum gauge on these engines has been marginal. I was using the vacuum gauge for timing and tuning the idle circuit. The V2 HdXL engine has a very weak vacuum signal at idle. In fact the needle will just about beat itself to death. It demonstrates how important the heavy flywheel is to the engine in order for it to maintain forward momentum. I never used the vacuum gauge for fuel economy on a motorcycle. Please keep us posted as to your results. |
Rwven
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:01 pm: |
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That would be the R1200GSA Adventure. I think it has about a 8 or 9 gallon tank... |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:57 pm: |
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I installed one on my old 1986 civic and managed to get 42 mpg out of it. I was using it to figure out the vacuum advancers on the distributor. I ended up just mounting it to the dash permanently for fun along with a voltmeter, tach, various random other crap |
Froggy
| Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 11:42 pm: |
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My gauge came in yesterday. It would of helped if I read the description, this thing is huge, its bigger than the gas cap. Now the fun part of mounting it on my already crowded bars. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 01:59 am: |
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I use an Auto Meter sport comp in my Jeep. I think it is 2 5/8". Jeep was rated at 17 mpg highway with an automatic. I've got over 19 mpg by keeping it over 12 inches. |
Ronmold
| Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 10:26 pm: |
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Check this out for milage: http://www3.edenpr.org/wps/portal/ No joke, this was a gas/electric hybrid |
Froggy
| Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 10:49 pm: |
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Except mine will be street legal, can go faster than walking speeds, and still let me keep up with the other Buellers going down wolf pen gap |