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Brinnutz
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 09:07 am: |
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http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/mcy/1178637103. html |
Firemanjim
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 11:01 am: |
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Wow,he sure destroyed the engineering that went into the design of that frame. I would be scared to ride it hard with that front section bolted like that. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 11:15 am: |
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I thought that looked out of place... |
Phelan
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 11:18 am: |
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I wish he'd done that stuff to an M2 instead.. The was a beautiful S2T that he destroyed. How many Ts did they make in '96? Like 500? |
F_skinner
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 11:33 am: |
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492 with 429 sold in the U.S. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 01:58 pm: |
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Not mine. http://lawrence.craigslist.org/mcy/1134055404.html |
Gowindward
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 02:32 pm: |
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Frank, that is the the guy on ebay always parting out Buells. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 02:53 pm: |
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I emailed him and talked about the bike. I would get it except for my job conditions right now. In Oct Sept I may be in a better situation (read that still employed) so I will hold off for now. I do not know where he is getting all these bikes but would think he would have a lot of parts laying around. He does not have the Signature Series stuff for it but does have the deep lids. I told him to put it in the for sale section of this site if he did not feel like parting it out. |
Ebutch
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 03:48 pm: |
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That,s the early kick-stand that made primary leak.To bad it didn,t work out.I think they did a good job on custom work!But handling?I would not do to my bike but oil tank for S3 maybe. Pull Some GGGGGGG,s Butch |
Buellerthanyou
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 05:51 pm: |
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Interesting. He made an "M2" out of an S2. Don't know if that was the right direction to go with it... HellBuelly J |
Bluesboy
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 07:16 pm: |
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Like my dad always said "There`s an ASS for every seat." |
Easy_rider
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 11:23 pm: |
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He did say that the pics don't do it justice..... Not sure it will get better, though. I can run up there if this does appeal to anyone. |
Ebutch
| Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 10:39 pm: |
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Roger:Please do go try a test ride and report.I wounder how it handles and like side-plates!Also how rear frame is modified. |
Ebutch
| Posted on Friday, May 22, 2009 - 10:43 pm: |
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Roger:Get frame serial #.That,s avery early S2 with that kick-stand. |
1313
| Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 10:45 pm: |
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Get frame serial #.That,s avery early S2 with that kick-stand. Sorry to disagree, but no S2 (not even the very early non-VIN'ed prototypes) had a sidestand like that. If you want to know what early prototype S2's used for a sidestand take a look at an RS or an RSS. Now, S1's are a different story. Early prototype S1's used a sidestand pivot mounted to the primary cover, but due to primary gasket degradation that sidestand never made it into production. 1313 |
Ebutch
| Posted on Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 11:30 pm: |
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Brankin:That is early S-2 kick-stand!Will post pic Sunday. |
Rickie_d
| Posted on Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 12:31 am: |
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That is not an early S2 sidestand! I have #34, one of the first units sold to the public in June of 94 (built in March of 94). However, that is an early fuel cell under that tank cover. Want to know how I know????? |
Phelan
| Posted on Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 03:04 am: |
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I think the point to make is that the sidestand is not stock, no matter where it came from. The custom S2 above is a '96 S2T, not a late or early '95 . |
Phelan
| Posted on Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 03:12 am: |
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also, I would like to know how you know it's an early fuel cell o_O. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 10:01 am: |
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Rickie,I sent you a PM. #34, one of the first units sold to the public I forgot to ask; at what number did they start selling to the public? I have always wondered what happens to the first few production numbers and imagine they are spoken for before the rest of us get a shot at them. Frank |
Rickie_d
| Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:34 am: |
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Frank # 34 was built on 5/12/94; I had the body shop dates stuck in my head. The inspection sticker for the tank cover went through the body shop in March of 94. I believe the first 20-30 bikes off the line were test mules and bikes delivered to the media for evaluation. A friend of mine that was an engineer for Buell at the time was supprised when he saw that such a low number as my 34 was actually delivered to the public. This bike was shipped from the factory on June 15th and delivered to me on the 29th through St. Paul HD. There were two bikes delivered together and I had my choice as they were uncrating them. One was red with PM wheels and the other was ice white with Marchesinis. I picked the white one. The “streetfighter” abouve is a hodge podge of years and custom fabrication that was preformed to rebuild a wrecked bike. I talked or wrote to the owner a year or two ago. I can tell the fuel cell is an early one, because the fuel cap retaining ring is mounted with oval head wood screws. They are treaded directly into the tank. The later S2’s had brass inserts molded into the flange and used flat allen head machine screws to mount the retainer. This fuel cell also has the later 90 degree vent used on later bikes with the check valve and installed on rebuilt/recall fuel cells. Mine has the original 0 degree straight through vent. |
Easy_rider
| Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 11:02 am: |
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I talked to the owner a bit yesterday. Ditto on the custom work to hold on to a wrecked bike. He was uneasy with letting go of the VIN, but did have the cover. The bike is listed as 38 out of 398. The wife had the camera yesterday, (common problem around here, she takes the kids somewhere fun, takes the camera. Need to get me a cheap one!) so I didn't take the time to run up there. Had some S2 priorities to take care of at home or I'd have used it as an excuse for a ride. He may trade the bike to his brother. I'll keep in touch to either get some add'l pics or make sure the next owner gets in touch with the board. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 11:15 am: |
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Rickie, thanks for the info. I have number 35 (pearl white as well) and had it for sale at one time but I am going to keep it. I have the lower peg mounts on order and have some S2T bars that I will add to to make it a more enjoyable ride for me. I am under suspicion that the early S2s were not built at the new building. After talking to 1313 and others I have not been able to confirm this but there seems to be a large amount of time between the frame stamped month and year and the actual build date. I realize the stamps are two different process but with your build date I should be able to narrow down the time a little better. If I could only figure out when production started at the new facility it would help a lot. I need to re-read Court and Daves book but do not think that info was in there. In the overall scheme of Buell it is but a small deal with all they have accomplished. Thanks again. Frank Thanks for the info on the fuel cell. I knew there was a recall on the vent but did not know the rest. All great info! |
Rickie_d
| Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 12:18 pm: |
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Frank, My frame tag, like the bodywork states the build date as March 94 even though the bike actually went down the line in May. I remember that there was a few delays in production start up due to suppliers failing to meet their delivery deadlines to the factory. My bike was delivered minus the CF lower belt guard. It was delivered to the dealership several weeks later when they became available. Also the factory provided instructions to modify the wiring harness so that 4-way flashers would function. The early bikes 4-ways did not work. This bike also had the bars that would only be comfortable angle if you were crawling all over the tank and dragging your knee. By the time I got home (18 miles), my hands were numb due to the wrist angle. The factory offered free a more moderate angle bar with the original height. I took them up on the offer of the new bars, but I paid for them so I could keep the originals. I remember there were several attempts to document all the nuances of the first (half) year of the 94 built 95’s. What I found was that mine was so early that they missed details that I documented by accident. My documentation came from plans to modify the bike, so the first thing I did when I got it home was to strip the body and fuel cell off the bike and photograph it naked. I belive the early bike were built in space behind the current building. They had several buildings and space in that industrial park before the current building was finished. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 12:37 pm: |
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I also noticed the welds were different. I posted pics somewhere and I compared them to my 96 S2-T. There is a lot of history in any S2 but especially the early ones. I have all the documentation from every service and recall done to number 35 but I just have not had a lot of time to go through it in detail. One of these days I will. When I toured the factory in 2006 they showed me where my 97 S1 was painted which was way in the back and at the time they were building the XBRR in that area. It was so cool to see the XBRR naked. It is an impressive bike as most Buells are. Neat stuff |
F_skinner
| Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 12:39 pm: |
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Here is the link comparing the welds. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/17/ 444044.html |
Ebutch
| Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 03:36 pm: |
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Very Interesting!!!Haven,t found mag. Artical yet.Will post when found! |
S2pengy
| Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 12:18 pm: |
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Bike week (the first full week of March) in March of 94 I was at the Buell Demos in Deland FL.. I seem to remember they were taking out 6 bikes on a ride with a chase bike and lead bike.. I believe there were a couple of spares and several on display including one at the civic center in Daytona.. So possibly 15 down there at the time.... |
S2pengy
| Posted on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 12:25 pm: |
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Ebutch I saw that kickstand on a couple S1's at a HOG open house at Talladaga race track in in AL in 1995??. Demo guys said that it caused the primary to leak... |
Ebutch
| Posted on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 09:57 pm: |
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Not S2 but 96 Lightning |