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Badbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 10:35 pm: |
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I bought some spitfire skateboard wheels real cheap and can mod some sliders for probably 20-25 for front and back. But, I am getting two different opinions but really no evidence supporting either. Some say it works and some say they will stick instead of slide. Im looking for someone with actual experience wrecking with the skateboard sliders.. anyone? |
Preybird1
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 10:48 pm: |
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You don't want to slide too fast. I thought the whole point was to do no damage to the motorcycle and not go sliding. If the bike goes down it gonna slide/grind. |
Badbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 10:59 pm: |
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Well yes but I can see the other side as well. If the slider can get enough traction it will grab and flip the bike given enough speed |
Niceguyeddy
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:09 am: |
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Answer, Dark Horse Moto. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:14 am: |
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There are skateboard wheels that look like delrin sliders, and then there are delrin sliders that will actually do the job. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:24 am: |
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OK, I have an opinion. I will frame it as a question. Is the skate board wheel going to get more traction than my Stradas, that did not have enough traction to keep me from sliding on the bike's side? |
Badbueller
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:31 am: |
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I was going to buy some from there but I saw that some ppl have done this and I try to do things myself if at all possible. |
Niceguyeddy
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 01:13 am: |
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I haven't, and don't have any ambition to use them but...I believe the bike should slide if it were to happen. I also ride a long-board and the wheels grip well (a little too well as I have found w/ a couple of cocktails in me.). I would recommend some "pro" sliders in my humble opinion. |
Corporatemonkey
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 05:16 am: |
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Why do people make this difficult. Just use Dark Horse Moto goodies. They have been tested, and proven very functional. They certainly saved my swing arm. This is not an area were you want to experiment on the cheap. |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 05:49 am: |
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Nothing wrong with experimenting on the cheap. I do it all the time. I mean, buying a Buell is a bit of an "experiment on the cheap". Ever hear of Ducati? Anyway back to the subject at hand, The Dark Horse sliders are great, but the skate board sliders work just fine. They are a lot cheaper, and offer a variety of colors and styles. I happen to prefer crystal orange m'self. I haven't crash tested them myself, but my nephew has, and says they worked as expected.
These are some black and yellow ones I used on my yellow XB9. I like Ricta wheels, and mount them with the normal skate board bearings. Here is a sketch on how I do it.
If you want to have a more finished look, you could use and internal nut and stainless bolts as shown below.
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Swordsman
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 09:44 am: |
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Er... does that nut stick out further than the wheel, or is that just an illusion? I would think THAT might get a little too much traction, what with the angles and all. ~SM |
Fastxb12r
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 10:45 am: |
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Ive never had to test them on this buell but my last buell a 2003 xb9r went down slid about 100 feet and the wheels held up just fine. I would also like to thank you for going your own way and making something yourself instead of walking in the lemming line and buying the same thing as many others. |
Badbueller
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 11:47 am: |
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Thanks gentleman and fastxb12, Half the fun of a buell is customizing it and making it even more different than it already is. I guess the trick for it not grabbing is the bearings. Makes sense. Ill post picks once the wheels come in and I install them. |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 01:17 pm: |
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Badman - That's it exactly, make your Buell your own. I have done lots of mod's to Lil' Blackie, ( over 50, but who's counting:-), and I'm still making them!! Riding a stock bike is for middle aged BMW riders, am I right? Sword - Very astute observation, (as usual:-). As a matter of fact, you are perfectly correct, and I did not actually use the acorn nut shown in the sketch for the very reason you suggest. That is why I went to the internal nut, and polished the bolt heads. Looks like this.
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Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 03:28 pm: |
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I used to work at a place that had plastic pallets. These buttons were in the pallets to keep them from sliding too much. They would come out on the floor and I would collect them. Not a lot of protection but should work for parking lot disasters.
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Badbueller
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 03:37 pm: |
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I was actually looking for some orange ones like yours gentleman_jon but couldnt find any. They would look great on my translucent orange bike. I ended up getting some spitfire bones wheels. Should look very cool and unique. |
Fastxb12r
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 04:00 pm: |
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you mean these http://www.ricta.com/wheels/wheels.php?family=supe rcrystals&sku=22221002 |
Zatco81
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 04:30 pm: |
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Those Clouds or Boltz would look good on the white/blue bolt. (Message edited by zatco81 on May 20, 2009) |
Augustus74
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 04:31 pm: |
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This may be something I would consider. I don't think the Darkhorse ones look that good. |
Badbueller
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 05:28 pm: |
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I did see the ricta ones. But they were twice as much as I paid for the spitfires. |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 05:41 pm: |
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Out***Standing Fast!! You have put your boney finger on the "Official Lil" Blackie" slider supplier. Well done, indeed. The Bones are a good choice too, Bad.
I think we are floating on a great river of creativity. Boogie on, Brothers.
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Teddagreek
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 06:44 pm: |
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being a 30 something guy who still skates, I personally wouldn't use them.. If I did I'd go with hardest duro on the "A" or "D" scale.. Or Better... They actually make "Slide Wheels" that are formulated to break loose.. I use fhese on my long board. http://wheels.earthwingskateboards.com/ |
Bueller83
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 08:17 pm: |
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I found that the skateboard wheels break off and cause internal damage to the axle. Crash tested my skateboard wheels and the all thread bent backwards and left thread marks all around the inside of the axle. |
Badbueller
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 08:35 pm: |
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Bueller83, What size bolt did you use? Also if you put the bolt thru rubber tubing I dont think it would. |
Buelltroll
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 08:35 pm: |
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they fade too n look like crap. thats why i took my 50$ "sliders" off I don't like the look of the darkhorse ones either. Not to mention he just took an idea that came from nothing (this very thread was created about 5 years ago)on the xb board n started charging ppl for them. find some cool looking brass or stainless hardware at home depot n make your own "darkhorse" sliders. |
Chippy
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 08:48 pm: |
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Ummm, I have experience skateboarding, so here's my .02. Spitfires are a softer wheel, so they'll have more of a tendency to stick, but with almost 400 lbs of sliding motorcycle the 4 square inches of skateboard wheels is probably inconsequential. If you really want to put your mind at ease, get some hard wheels like ricta's or darkstars...or darkhorse moto plastic ones for pretty much the same money. |
Badbueller
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 09:09 pm: |
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Im going to check the wheels out when I get them. I do think with 430lbs plus me so 600 or so lbs they wont grip. If not Ill just cut some myself out of some spare plastic stock. |
Fahren
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 09:45 pm: |
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I bought a piece of Delrin rod (comes in whatever diameter you want) online, about 2' so I could make plenty of sliders. Cut them to whatever length you want for different degrees of protection. Drill thru a small hole for threaded rod, and a larger hole part way in that will fit your socket into for bolt tightening (used a Forstner bit that gives a flat-bottomed hole). Home made Delrin. Primitive, yet effective. |
Skully
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 11:33 pm: |
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Donnie, I hate to burst your bubble... Sliders were invented long before the thread that you reference above. When I lowsided my bike five years ago, there were very few sliders available for Buell XB models. So I made my own. A friend saw them and convinced me to sell them. Obviously, I've greatly expanded the line since then. Some of the sliders like the Composite Series are totally original. I had not seen anything like them when I came up with the idea. We constantly use customer feedback to improve our product. Now, several thousand satisfied customers later, we are THE premier Buell slider manufacturer. What ever brand you purchase or if you make your own, put them on your bike. They are some of the cheapest insurance you can buy. Keith DarkHorseMoto, LLC A Proud BadWeB Sponsor Protecting and Propelling Buell Motorcycles http://www.darkhorsemoto.com |
Corporatemonkey
| Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 06:27 am: |
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