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Ochoa0042
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:23 am: |
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I have a hunch that the culprit to a problem is the oil that im using. I've heard word that buell actually says a few oils can be used in the primary that wont kill the stator, but I have no clue which ones. Is there a buell-corp 'ok' list or something.... Mobile 1? what grade? ~~thanks ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/biggrin2.gif) |
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Jraice
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:30 am: |
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I believe there was a specific chemical that is the only problem, cant recall what though... I have heard people have had good success with amsoil as well as Royal Purple Max Cycle. I personally thought the bike shifted like a dream and now after my service its shifting pretty bad. What oil comes stock? Dealer put Syn3, guy convinced me it was much superior to Formula+. Is Formula+ what was in there stock? If so than they are full of it because it went from shifting perfectly (not butter smooth like a japanese bike but just as easy to do) to taking more effort in the peg and even after 200 miles of getting used to it I still missed 2-3 shifts this evening! |
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Pkforbes87
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 04:26 am: |
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I've tried Royal Purple MaxCycle 20w50, and Formula+ Royal Purple is great in the engine but SUCKS in the tranny. I dumped it after a couple hundred miles and went back to the Formula+ I'm sure there are other brands out there that work well in the Primary, but Formula+ really isn't that expensive. I believe it's semi-synthetic too if that matters to you.. BTW Formula+ is the replacement for SportTrans, so just know that they are one and the same. |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 06:17 am: |
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Basically you DON'T want to use an EP gear lubricant, like Mobil-1 75W-90, or any other rear end lube for that matter. They have additives that appear to cause the stator to fail. My vote is for Formula+. Worked great in my S3; works great in my Uly. |
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Glitch
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 07:26 am: |
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Formula+ for about 20thousand miles. I did use Mobil1 gear oil, but learned the hard way I shouldn't. |
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Redbuelljunkie
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 10:02 am: |
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Amsoil 20W-50. |
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Sort23
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 01:12 pm: |
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Harley Syn3. |
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Mnrider
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 02:07 pm: |
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+1 on the formula+ its cheap and its the right lube. |
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Ochoa0042
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:10 pm: |
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I have harley Sny3 in it and need something else.... so im guessing that the formula+ is another harley product to reread.... |
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Old_man
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:15 pm: |
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It was covered well there. |
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Fx1200
| Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 11:01 pm: |
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2006 XB12Scg: 60,000 miles. Used Formula+ exclusively. 2 minor adjustments to the primary chain. |
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Buellmeister57
| Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 05:48 pm: |
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Amsoil 20w-50 in my 1999 Cyclone for 35,000+ miles. No problems. |
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Ochoa0042
| Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 04:56 pm: |
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whats the beef, i cant find amsoil at the locals.... ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/confused.gif) |
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Woody1
| Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 06:20 pm: |
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I am very happy with the amsoil 20w 50 |
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Propower418
| Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 09:33 pm: |
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Ditto on the Amsoil |
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Union_man
| Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 10:43 pm: |
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Just switched to amsoil |
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Dennista15
| Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 09:08 am: |
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Yup I've only run Amsoil and I love it. In the tranny and engine. |
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Fast1075
| Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:28 am: |
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I use the Mobil 1 V-twin oil with no problems. |
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Valiant_duke
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 01:33 am: |
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I just changed the oil and the primary, and quickly ran into the local dealer here and grabbed Syn 3 (instead of formula +), and threw that into the primary (wasn't thinking).... It was $12 for the quart, so I really dont want to change it, but do yall think its cool to leave in there till the next oil change? Thanks |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 09:06 am: |
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It's not gonna hurt anything, but if you notice a change in shifting that you don't like, you'll know what the problem is. |
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Ochoa0042
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 02:17 pm: |
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the norm spec of oil on texas is to get 10W-40, but many of y'all get 20W-50.... and reading what amsoil has to say on their site, in swayed to get the 20W-50. It wouldnt be a problem getting a different spec, would it?
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Redbuelljunkie
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 07:38 pm: |
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Manufacturers give a range of weights due to regional temperature differences. In Florida, everyone goes with the heaviest weight allowable (20W-50) because it's hot here- I'd be surprised if Texas didn't do the same. There is no problem changing from one weight to the other, in fact, in areas with extreme temperature changes you can run 10W-40 in winter and 20W-50 in summer. Outside temp aside, running a heavier oil provides better protection in high-heat/high wear situations like stop/go traffic or track days. I highly recommend 20W-50 for use in Buells unless you mostly ride when it's below freezing. |
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Boltrider
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 09:17 pm: |
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I switched about a month ago to Mobil1 V-twin in the primary, and so far I don't like it. I miss the 1-2 shift more often with it. I'm going back to the stock Harley stuff with my next change. (Message edited by boltrider on May 19, 2009) |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 09:24 pm: |
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At least two of us have e-mailed Mobil and asked what they recommended for the primary of a Buell, and they recommended Mobil-1 Racing 4T 10W-40. I've never tried it, but that's what Mobil recommends. I'm perfectly happy with Formula+ in the primary and Mobil 1 V-twin 20W-50 in the swingarm. |
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Boltrider
| Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 09:29 pm: |
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I'm perfectly happy with Formula+ in the primary and Mobil 1 V-twin 20W-50 in the swingarm That's exactly what I will do. Too many times I've mistakenly put it in neutral and revved the crap out of it. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/buzz_saw.gif) |
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Eicas
| Posted on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:02 am: |
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I have been using Schaeffer Oil, - no problems. |
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Buford
| Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 10:01 pm: |
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I also tried RP Max Cycle 20-50 in the tranny and shifting became difficult..finding neutral harder etc. Drained that and put M1 VTwin 20-50 in and all is well. |