| Author | Message | ||
     Andrewb |
I am looking at a Remington 540X for my kid. Adjustable stock, wedge and match sights. I am looking for some guidance... The bore is mint, the external finish is almost new. The problem is that the bolt looks like it was slammed home a few times. Messing up the channel in the underside of the bolt, and making the action a little sticky. Also I found a split in the stock that had been repaired. Lastly that there is a slight ding/divit in the crown's recess. The guy is asking $250 for the rifle, I was thinking maybe $175~200. Thanks for any and all input, Andrew | ||
| Kevyn |
Keep lookin'. Try for a Winchester 52 or a Ruger 10/22 or 77/22. Ping Bighairyralph. CZ makes a fine youth size sporter. Join the NRA immediately if not already done. Go to a local range and check their bulletin boards. | ||
| Josh |
Can I drop the fact that I has holding a full auto H&K M5 last night?  If I save up enough pennies to buy some 10mm rounds I might get to shoot it. | ||
| Ar15ls1 |
You are a very lucky man if you get to shoot an mp5. I want to hold or shoot for that matter an H&K G36. To me this is the best assault rifle in the world. I wish we could get them in the civilian market here in the USA. (Thanks MR. Klinton) | ||
| Forevernow |
go to the machine gun shoot in knob creek kentucky ,in one day i was able to shoot a full auto mp5,ak-47,h&k g3,m 16,uzi carbine,and a mac-10,there are also alot of other sub machine guns and automatic rifles to be shot,there was even some m60s,50 cal brownings,and a ge mini gun to shoot,along with a swap meet that makes any other gun show ive been to look pretty pathetic | ||
| Rempss |
Andrew, I cannot figure out "slammed home", so I'll ask: Does the receiver/bolt look pitted or rough in condition? Will he let you put a bit of grease on the bolt (not face) to see if it improves the feel? Does this "sticky feel" affect the movement of the action for smooth shot to shot repeatability? Does the ding on the crown interfere with the barrel itself or is there distance between the ding and the opening? Is the stock repaired done in a professional manner? Where is it located on the stock? Well performed repairs add some character to a rifle, about 75% of my collection is military so my opinion is a bit different than others on this. I like an older firearm to look like an older firearm, a bit of use, not abuse. The 540X is a 1960's era rifle, should show some handling marks etc. It seems to me that you are in the right range for that rifle for a good kids rifle, there are others available in the same price and quality range, but seems as though you are in the market for this one. If you are looking for extreme target accuracy only a review by a gunsmith who is very researched on the care and function of rimfire rifles will be able to advise you on the exact value/suitalbility for your purposes. You might check out rimfire board. These guys have much more experience in rimfire target shooting and the equipment than my speculation and limited knowledge of these particular firearms. In modern non-military firearms I am a huge 22lr fan, it is hard not to be. My 22 rimfire target rifles are a BSA Martini International MKII w/ a 20 power Unertl scope and an Anschutz Match 54. Josh, If you get to the Ohio area you can shoot my MP5 for free, it's in 9MM, very accurate to 100+ yards. But hurry, it's for sale, I am offing all of my H&K firearms. Piss poor company. Quality has hit rock bottom in the last 5 years also. AR15, Look back past the Clinton area and see that no recent administration has been our friend, back to Nixon or further. It was President Bush #1 that banned all non-sporting "assault weapons" (we should not use that term) in 1989, in 1994 it was broadened to include many more by name. The list includes Nixon, Reagan, Bush #1, Giuliani, Pataki etc... I am conservative, but not blindly so, research it a bit. The best assault rifle in the world in the AK47, and I can prove it! (Just kidding, borrowing a phrase from elsewhere on this board a while back.) If you have ever had one apart it is quite a robust firearm, it is cheap to manufacture, well designed, pretty darn foolproof, easy to repair (if it ever fails) no bells and whistles. What more could you want. Forever, Do you know someone on the shooting line? If not, let me know next time you come down & I'll let you borrow one of our badges and shoot some stuff. I only attend the October shoot, too busy at work in April. For those of you not familiar with Knob Creek, it is an old military testing site turned into a gun range for most of the year and the largest machine-gun shoot not sponsered by a government twice a year. It is just south of Louisville KY, just the other side of a mountain from Fort Knox. Usually about 40-60,000 in attendance. See more here, click the "Shoot Information Page" link. Jeff | ||
| Andrewb |
>I cannot figure out "slammed home", so I'll ask: >Does the receiver/bolt look pitted or rough in >condition? The underside of the bolt rides on a pin. The machined groove the pin rides in is chewed up. Like if the bolt were slammed open and closed. Hard to explain without a picture. It looks like a it would require some time with a file and a stone to smooth the action. The roughness is mechanical in nature. >Does this "sticky feel" affect the movement of >the action for smooth shot to shot >repeatability? Yes, absolutely >Does the ding on the crown interfere with the >barrel itself or is there distance between the >ding and the opening? On second, look it is just with in the recess's machining. quite far from the bore. >Is the stock repaired done in a professional >manner? Where is it located on the stock?etc. The split is in the fore end , and is really well repaired. I would not have noticed it had I not been extra critical once I examined the bolt. The rifle is beautiful to look at and would seem to be in excellent shape. Until the action is worked. I found it quite puzzling. It's up for consignment locally so I offered a low ball, taking into account the replacement cost of the bolt assembly... I've two kids that will be using the rifle, one at his high school rifle meets, and the other when he's a few years older. Plus it'll provide cheap practice for me, seeing as I'm out of work, and the 308 gets expensive to shoot even when reloading your own ammo. | ||
| Nevco1 |
This is for all firearms enthusiasts... DOCTORS VS GUNS... This was NOT put out by the NRA. Think About This: A. The number of physicians in the US is 700,000. B. Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year is 120,000. C. Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171. (US Dept. of Health & Human Services) Then think about this: A. The number of gun owners in the US is 80,000,000. B. The number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) is 1,500. C. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR. Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before his gets out of hand. As a public health measure I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear that the shock could cause people to seek medical attention. | ||
| Rick_A |
I'm partial to Ruger 22lr's. They're relatively inexpensive, very reliable, fairly accurate, and extremely upgradeable. | ||
| Hans |
What I really like to know... Are there doctors among those 1500 yearly casualties ?? Hans  | ||
| Nevco1 |
Hans...Interesting question. I would assume there were as even physicians have physicians. LOL | ||
| Forevernow |
Rempss,I dont know any one on the line,me and some friends went down there on vacation a couple of years ago(best vacation i have taken)thanks for the offer,i will be sure to let you know if i go again in oct.only bad part is the 12 hour drive from here(and the empty wallet afterwords) | ||
| Henrik |
That Doc vs. Gun stat would be more interesting if turned around: How many lives were saved by contact with a Doc vs. how may lives saved by contact with a gun ?? Henrik (not in a humoristic mood this morning) | ||
| Rempss |
- This study includes crimes committed / attempted, a much larger group than accidental deaths caused by firearms or the "practice" of medicine. - Hard to compare these two statistics with any validity, it is better to compare accidents with similar circumstances. How many die every year drowning in buckets of water? Pools? Falling down steps? Out of windows? Items found around everyone everyday. - Even if it's only partially true it's a lot of crime control: In 1995, Dr. Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz released the results of their research, and found 2.5 million or more instances of firearms used for self- defense, yearly. - Though one cannot say how many of these instances would have for certain ended in death, this was included: ...Kleck's research contained a measure of the very social cost for which Cook professed concern: "...as many as 400,000 people a year use guns in situations where the defenders claim that they 'almost certainly' saved a life by doing so...If even one-tenth of these people are accurate in their stated perceptions, the number of lives saved by [would-be] victim use of guns would still exceed the total number of lives taken with guns. - In response to this study many quotes like this: Shortly after Kleck & Gertz released their findings came a stunning admission by criminologist Marvin Wolfgang, in the Fall 1995 issue of the Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology: "I am as strong a gun-control advocate as can be found among the criminologists in this country. I hate guns ...[but Kleck and Gertz] have provided an almost clearcut case of methodologically sound research in support of something I have theoretically opposed for years....I cannot further debate it." - Others debate this study, but the findings are considered fact in many legal findings across the country. While I have my beliefs on this topic, it will not cloud my perceptions of the agendas presented by both sides of the crime control problems in the US. Jeff | ||
| Henrik |
Docs vs. Guns: I'm not against guns - fervently defended gun ownership at a gathering this weekend. I enjoy shooting the few times I get the chance (thanks Aaron). I grew up shooting competition target rifle. I won the target and combat pistol shooting competition in Military Police training (1 point from the standing record - darn it!), got 3rd in sub machine gun target competition etc. But, having spent years in the ER patching up people and their lives, I get really tired of the unsubstantiated Doc bashing - just like, I'm sure, gun owners get tired unsubstantiated gun bashing. Henrik (and no, I'm not a practicing physician anymore) | ||
| Court |
Only took me getting hurt once to make sure I have the best medical care avialable at all times. Only took me geting shot once to . . . . We won't be fooled again. Court | ||
| Hans |
That is not doctors bashing: Only 1500 casualties by accidental gun fire/year: All those zillion others, pierced by bullets, could be kept alive by.... doctors. Hans | ||
| Eisanmann |
I wouldn't pay $100 for a 30 yr. old rifle with such signs of wear. Like Rick said, Ruger 10/22 can be highly modified. "  " | ||
| Nevco1 |
Hey, it was just a joke that was flying around the email circuit. Lighten up and enjoy life. You weren't the only ones shot at and/or saved by a doctor. | ||
| Richieg150 |
A Ruger 10/22 is an excellant choice.They shoot accurately,dependable,and cheap ammo!You can shoot all day with the kids for next to nothing. | ||
| Henrik |
Bill; I'm light as a feather - but get tired of ill considered "jokes" putting down people, convictions, race, religion, politics etc. Henrik | ||
| Rick_A |
My brother has a bolt action Marlin .22lr "target" rifle and my stock 10/22 could out shoot it. It's been changed a little since then  tens of thousands of rounds and still going strong | ||
| Sandmanx1 |
Hey this is America the beutiful and if its ok to ride and own a bike it must be ok to own a gun of any size shape or form! Why is it that so many people will stand up and shout when others go after the things in life that they love so much yet that same person will go for your throat like a mad dog if they dont like what you have or the things that you love? Just a little something to think about before every one gets upset and bites me for simply asking a question. There studies and facts true and false about everything idiots are gonna be idiots no mater how hard we try to legislate them into submission. No laws or arguments can ever hope to change that can they? So in my opinion why cant we just live as free as is humanly posibal and mind our own manners and our own kids an stop worrying about what the other guy is doing in his free world. | ||
| Rick_A |
If it was only so... | ||
| Srl |
Any Class 3 firearm and Buell owners on here? Any C3 and any motos? Sad thing is now it costs as much to collect C3 as it does to collect motos. SRL |
