| Author | Message | ||
     Carbonlightning |
Ok just curious i have seen guys in here saying they have trouble keepin the wheel on the ground in second and even pulling them in third. First gear no problem just twist and go. Second gear i get every once in a while after a quick shift from 1st to second not really lifting that much though. Have only really gotten it up decent once or twice in second. Whats other peoples experiance on this? | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
I experimented with wheelies for a while.. finally decided that I've got too much time, energy, and money invested in my bikes to treat them like that. Best case scenario would be I never go down - only accelerate the wear on my forks and various other stress points. My 2002 X1 had hairline fractures around the front shock mount due to too many hard wheelie landings by the previous owner. | ||
| Tdman77 |
+2 Too much wear and tare on the bike. But every once in a blue moon (2-3 times a year) I will pick the front end up. If I force it I can keep it up into 3rd gear. Haven't tried to lift it up while riding along in 3rd or higher. Guess I'm not as crazy as I use to be. I had a turbo GSXR1000 that I could wheelie at 70+ mph. Boy was I stupid back then! | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
I had the GPZ750 TURBO as a fun toy  but now that I'm almost 41 I...I..I AHH BULL$HIT I pull wheelies every chance I get! 1st and 2nd gear with some hard shifts but 3rd isn't happening but I am 6'2" 235lbs so that may have something to do with it. | ||
| Lowroad |
Yeah, Played around with mine over the weekend with the same result. First gear, no problems. Just nail it. It comes right up. I did it by accident the first time on the side of the highway after waiting for my girlfriend to pass by then playing catch up with her. Second gear, I could probably get it to go up too, but at that point I'm doing almost 60 already. I don't get where these guys are coming from that say they are having trouble keeping it down, etc.. Like previously stated, it can't be good for the bike, so I kinda knocked it off. mostly. Fork seals, over working the clutch, excessive drivetrain lash, etc... Not to mention if I flip the thing, it's basically totalled. I want this bike to last for 20 years, not 2. | ||
| Malott442 |
I quit just to my insurance could take a breather. If done properly, the only real strain on the bike is clutch..... Learn balance point, and put it down while throttling it. I set it back down smooth as a kitten. Haven't ever blown a fork seal..... But then again, my insurance is low, and I quit doing wheelies last year to keep it that way. | ||
| Texastechx1 |
Wheelies on tubers are FUN! but I agree, to much wear and tare on such a beautiful bike. i can get the wheel up easy in first but if i get it high and try to hold I run out of revs and either have to drop it down too hard... or the rev limiter will drop it down just as hard for me! I find the most fun... and the least likely to get hairy, when it comes to street wheelies... is to bounce it up with just the throttle at about 3000rpm while accelerating, keep the front wheel off the ground by about a foot and by the time you have to shift into 2nd, the front wheel is already coming back down very smooth like! EDIT: like Malott aid, with a lil throttle practice you can do some crazy wheelies and still be able to bring the front end down real easy. I've done some 2nd gear ones on the highway using the back pegs... not hard to get the wheel high up in the air but I don't have as much fun as i do with just the fun small street ones. (Message edited by texastechx1 on May 07, 2009) | ||
| Bluesboy |
1st gear,out of sight...2ed gear,hold on tight... | ||
| Tweekin2 |
I think bigger guys have less of a problem. I am 6' 200 lbs and can bring it up by pulling or keep it down by getting on the tank. Interested in knowing how squirrely it gets with some of you lighter guys. | ||
| Backnblack |
4th gear Wheelies all the time, just mailed fork tubes off to Race Tech for rebuild. (Message edited by backnblack on May 10, 2009) | ||
| Wrecker169 |
The good thing about a tuber is all you have to do in 1st gear is a clutch wheelie, keeping the rpm`s down, and shift positavely all the way to 4th gear. By then, you are going probably 50 mph. As long as you keep your bike up high and light in the air, you can wheelie a pretty long way through all the gears. 5th gear has no power to keep you up,though. At least not me. | ||
| Wrecker169 |
By the way, you will never backflip as long as you remember where the rear brake is located. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
I know where the rear brake is but I think that's where the damage comes from. Slapping the bike down at 50mph is pretty nasty! I found teaching guys to pull wheelies on a hill seems to be the easiest way and you guys know what I mean....take off in 1st going up hill and that front end snaps right up. | ||
| Kalali |
Is that why they call you "WrecherXXX"!!?? | ||
| Texastechx1 |
By the way, you will never backflip as long as you remember where the rear brake is located. true... BUT, letting off the throttle does the same thing without any negative side effects (too hard on the rear brake and you can still flip off the bike, just in the other direction. Or you can come down way too hard!) | ||
| Phelan |
I held a 25 mph wheelie for a block in front of my dad on his Ultra one time (I was on the S2). He said never to do it in front of him again. He said it was awesome but scared the **** outa him  . BTW we were at his house 20 miles south of town with no traffic. | ||
| Backnblack |
A friend of mine,S14life, slams his 97 S1 down from 1st & 2nd gear wheelies, & has never had any issues. I've broken two thunderstorm heads(waranty) on the front cylinder at the mount. | ||
| Crazyman54783 |
1st gear wheelies are worthless for us buells. 2nd is fun. 3rd is were you can go for blocks. stand ups are the way to go, just make sure that you know were your balance point is. I do 3rds all the time. if you get going to fast just go over your balance point a bit and slow down the throttle. It took me about a season to get it right. | ||
| Crazyman54783 |
4th gear stand ups are possible by the way, the only bad this is that you have to start them around 60-70mph. (Message edited by Crazyman54783 on May 11, 2009) | ||
| Shot_gun |
I just wanted to post the Thrill is BACK! Thanks to the Penske team, Racetech, and a 27 tooth sprocket. I have never been able to accelerate into a wheelie with out using the clutch and now I can  . I never use my rear brake at all. Thottle control is the key. Our engine have such severe engine braking you really don't need it. Now if I can get the flex out of the swingarm I'll be good! | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
Crazyman, your clutch must be crying for it's mama!!! Trying to horse it up in 4th gear is almost impossible unless you weight 110 pounds soaking wet and you have a 10 tooth front pulley  | ||
| Crazyman54783 |
ive done them personally and i have 33000miles on the bike and havnt changed the clutch yet.... yet  | ||
| Crazyman54783 |
i weight 185lbs | ||
| Lowroad |
27 tooth front sprocket eh? Someone tell me more. | ||
| Kalali |
I have seen too many wheelies on Youtube with the rider falling off the back of the bike and destroying the bike. I simply don't have the nuts for it. You guys have convinced me that my X1 can do it and that is good enough for me, at least for now. May be I should change my alias to "GrandmaX1"!! | ||
| Shot_gun |
Ok, maybey my verbage was off. 27Tooth drive pulley. Stock 29 tooth pulley no wheelie with out the clutch. 27 tooth pulley we have a wheelie with out the clutch. I really shouldn't take my medication before I post.  | ||
| Tdman77 |
You would gain more off the line punch with a larger rear sprocket. Say if you could find something around 70 tooth for the rear. On the jap bikes I had we were always swapping out the rear pull for a larger one to make up for the lack of torque. (It just might have been easier to switch the rear than the front pulley.) (Message edited by tdman77 on May 13, 2009) |
