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Lowroad
| Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 10:51 pm: |
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I tried denying it was necessary, I tried coming up with new ideas, I tried routing the breather back into the force winder, I tried fancy braided line and various spiffy earl's fittings, etc...I didn't like any of it. In the end, I have given in to my wiser bueller brothers and gone the traditional pegasus catch can set up route. So simple, so effective, so bad ass. I do like the cute little filter though. I did have to drill it out to 11/32" to accommodate the 1/4 90 degree barb that came with the can though. I also picked up a 17 cent rubber stopper trimmed it to fit, and superglued it in the hole in the force winder. Pegasus can, $30 3ft. black fuel line, $4 one stainless hose clamp (had one already), $1.29 One 3/8 brass barb (I painted it black), $3.50 One nifty little fuel filter, $3. Rubber stopper $.17 Total $41.96 and about 20 minutes. I spent more than that on fittings and braided line experimenting before I caved in. Remind me to listen next time. I farted around with this for 3 weeks or more. Believe me, my girl does NOT want to hear about the damn breather set up ANY more. Ever. Sorry for the washed out imaged. Flash at night in a dark garage.
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Tdman77
| Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 11:17 pm: |
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About damn time! JK Oil that air filter! |
Lowroad
| Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 11:30 pm: |
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Oil it? I have some uni air filter oil around, should I hit it with that? |
Tdman77
| Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 11:36 pm: |
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I think the uni oil is for a foam type filter. The K&N oil is red in color, turns the filter a red/pink color. You can get it at most auto parts stores. Don't go overboard with the oil a little goes a long way. I like to oil mine and let it sit over night to soak in. The next day you will know if you have missed any areas. It should look like the ones in the pictures here: http://www.knfilters.com/ (Message edited by tdman77 on April 28, 2009) |
Lowroad
| Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 11:40 pm: |
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Ah HA! I wondered why mine was all not red and stuff. I'll stop at autozone or something tomorrow. Thanks Tom! |
Funjimmy
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:04 am: |
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Look good to me. Where did you get the Pegasus can and the rigid hose? |
Tdman77
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:45 am: |
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Jim - Here's the link to the catch can. http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.as p?RecID=4703 |
Lowroad
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 08:58 am: |
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Jim, the rigid head breather came with the bike, I think it's a standard force winder part. A couple of banjo bolts and the 6" of 3/8" fuel line I trimmed away would accomplish the same thing. |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 10:09 am: |
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I think most of the splooge you have will collect in the lowest point of your hose because it's not really and "under pressure" setup. My .02 anyways. Same setup I used only mine mounted on the other side. =) |
Lowroad
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 10:11 am: |
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Yeah, I was kinda wonderin about gravity and soforth, but I see it done this way by guys like Thomas, who seems to know what he's doing, so I followed suit. |
Lowroad
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:14 pm: |
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Maybe I should run it downhill on the tranny side? |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:15 pm: |
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You already got it on the tranny side...you mean cam side? See how it runs and run through a tank of gas and empty it. I tried to mount mine vertical so that it would actually empty. |
Tdman77
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:20 pm: |
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There is some pressure there. Take the hose off when the motor is running and you will feel it. Your problem could be drain back when you shut the motor off. I have mine running parallel with the ground between the cylinder heads to my catch can. |
Lowroad
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 01:51 pm: |
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Yeah Wilson, I meant cam side. Tom, Mine is not exactly parallel, I routed it slightly uphill around the front motor mount. Maybe I oughtta re-route? I don't get a lot of drain anyway, just vapors really. I guess I'll see what happens, it might be fine. |
Tdman77
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 02:22 pm: |
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I find that I get the most spooge when the bike has been sitting for like a week. (Yeah I do ride my Duce also.) When I do get a chance to ride her every day or ever other day I get very little spooge. You should be getting some liquid in your catch can, so it just might be like Nutz said too much uphill in the hose. |
Lowroad
| Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 02:49 pm: |
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Well, we'll see. I just did it last night. |
Kalali
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 08:05 am: |
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Low, where is your IAT? I assume you have an X1. |
Lowroad
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 05:03 pm: |
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whats an IAT? Yes, it's a 2000 X1 |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 05:05 pm: |
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Kalali, I'm pretty sure that's what the thing is on the bottom of the air filter part... |
Oldog
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 06:11 pm: |
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Lowroad IAT = Intake Air Temperature looks good |
Lowroad
| Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 07:31 pm: |
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theres an oxygen sensor type thing down there in the back of the force winder. |
Blackandchrome
| Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 05:29 pm: |
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Could you make a bracket that uses the horn mount location? My bike is in the shop getting the shock rebuilt and new tires. I'm going to order the catch can now so I can put it on when I get back. |
Tdman77
| Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 09:15 pm: |
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You could use a cushioned clamp like the one that holds the left scoop to the frame. You just need to find one that had an ID 1 2/3". Might be worth taking the catch can to the hardware store and see if they have something that big. You could even reuse the bolt from the horn bracket. |
Lowroad
| Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 10:02 pm: |
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hmmm. Summit has those. |
Blackandchrome
| Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 08:51 pm: |
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Just doing a little research before I install mine. I guess someone already did the horn mount: http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/marriott/x1/Pingel3.jpg I got the Pegasus catch can and rip off K&N filter. I'd like to do the horn mount and get rid of that ugly thing - but I don't want to run into issues during inspection time. It seems strange to be running the line all the way to the other side of the bike. Routing the line up then down doesn't seem like the greatest idea too. Do I have to worry about the heat? I was playing around and I think I can fit it between the motor and the frame/intake.
I might be able to use half the breather setup (180 bent metal tube and plastic hose) that came on the aftermarket intake. Instead of putting it on the left side of the bike, there's plenty of room on the right
How often do you empty your catch cans? Pros - cons - suggestions.... |