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Chadhargis
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 10:17 am: | 
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Nitro, don't feel bad about posting YOUR opinion of the bike.
Everyone is a little different. I like a bike set up very "loose". I like near telepathic steering, and a bike that falls into a corner very quickly, and don't mind a little wiggling around.
Others I've ridden with like to push the bike down into turns and prefer rock solid stability.
To quote one of my favorite movies "Risky Business", "You don't buy Sony if you want RCA." Same applies for motorcycles.
The RC51 is a sweet bike. I've been wanting one for my track bike ever since I rode a friends down at Jennings in December. I just can't find one for the price I'm looking to spend (I want as SP2).
I'd love to have an 1125. I like the way it makes power. Very linear. It's vastly more comfortable than an RC for my 6'5" frame.
What some people need to understand is that what works for one person doesn't work for another. |
Xl_cheese
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 12:16 pm: |
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I wonder if it's placibo effect? He looks at the geometry numbers before he even stepped over the bike and was already telling himself how the bike was going to handle before riding. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 02:25 pm: |
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I wonder if it's placibo effect? He looks at the geometry numbers before he even stepped over the bike and was already telling himself how the bike was going to handle before riding.
Except looking at the numbers would suggest a bike that feels far too light, steers too quickly and is generally unstable.
He found the opposite.
I also agree - a properly set up suspension does absolute wonders.
You have to keep in mind that the suspensions don't come from the factory set for a specific weight. The front could be set up for a 270 pounder while the back is set up for a 160 pounder. And even then, the forks may not be the same.
I hope you give it another shot. My 1125 is the sweetest handling bike I've ridden, and words like "heavy" woudln't come close to describing it. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 02:43 pm: |
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One would think that the factory would take a few minutes and set the bike up for say a 200 pound rider (with gear.) Or at the very least request in the PDI from the dealer to setup the suspension.
I am sure that suspension settings are not as important on Harleys as they have more relaxed steering geometry, are slower & generally ridden much easier than Buells. Possibly this partially explains the lack of importance placed on suspension setting?
For such a crucial thing, it sure does get ignored quite a bit. |
Ccryder
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 02:54 pm: |
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Since I'm always reading BWB (Every once in awhile some of it soaks in too), when I picked up my 1125r, I grabbed my Salesman and said: "Come help me set up my suspension." 20 mins later we had it set up for my size and off I rode to break it in.
30 mins later I was back at the Dealer loading it into my trailer for the ride home and my 1st oil change.
Yeah I had to tweak it here and there to suit my riding and the weather but, it was within a click here or there of being good-to-go!
Time2Ride
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Xl1200r
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 02:54 pm: |
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One would think that the factory would take a few minutes and set the bike up for say a 200 pound rider (with gear.) Or at the very least request in the PDI from the dealer to setup the suspension.
When I bought my Firebolt I asked them to set up the suspension per the factory for my weight. I was told by the service manager that they "didn't know how". |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 02:58 pm: |
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I was told by the service manager that they "didn't know how".
I would like to say that's shocking, but unfortunately, it isn't.
Anyone with the correct tools at hand can have the bike setup correctly in less than 10 minutes. Someone with experience, less than 5 minutes. It ain't rocket science! |
Rockstarblast1
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 03:14 pm: |
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The tools needed come with the bike 2 top it off. While were on topic does any one have a good idea where to have mine set for being about 140 lbs? Online and manual don't go tht low and the lowest settings in the book still leave me with a bumpy ride and when in turns the front end doesn't seam right. Kinda like it want to wallow or somethin in the front. I don't know much about this sorry for the hi jack. |
Slaughter
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 03:16 pm: |
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It's so funny that somebody "doesn't know how"
That is a GOOD SIGN that you probably want to find ANOTHER dealer to do your maintenance - good thing you found out now.
When I bought my first Buell, Ernie at Glendale wouldn't let me off the lot UNTIL he had set up the suspension PER THE MANUAL for my weight and talked to be a little about suspension and tires/pressures.
Geeeez. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 03:17 pm: |
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Start eating, lol. |
Slaughter
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 03:19 pm: |
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The only way you CAN tell if you are "too light" would be to measure the ACTUAL sag on front and rear. If you CAN'T get the front to sag 35mm or the rear to sag 25mm, that means that you are just going to have to buy aftermarket springs to suit your lighter weight. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Monday, April 27, 2009 - 03:20 pm: |
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Rockstar, do you pre-July 2008 build? If so you have stiffer springs installed and with your light weight may have issues. |
Vanvideo
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 04:51 pm: |
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Interesting. I owned an SP1 and took an 1125R for a test ride. I loved the power, the handling (it felt like my '04 Gixxer 750), the weight. When I got back on my RC, I was amazed at the weight difference. The RC felt so ponderous after the 1125R. Maybe it was perceived, perhaps the RC is more top-heavy, I don't know.
I sold the RC a month after that for a ZX-10R. Now, that's a lightweight bike. But I do miss the RC. |
Scubarc51
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 05:28 pm: |
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Vanvideo you might have a 1125 in the future,
I did the same thing i had an 04 RC51 for acouple years then traded it on an 05 ZX10-R but had to go back to the twin.
there isnt another bike out there i would rather have than my 1125cr,
The Sound it makes and absolutly the huge a mount of torque from the twin.
PURE GRUNT! |
Redscuell
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 09:16 pm: |
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I test-rode an 05 SP2 before I bought the 1125R, and absolutely hated it: the brakes were grabby, the handlebars far too low and hurt my wrists and also cramped the hands between bars and tank; and the seatback hit me in the ass every time I rode over a bump in the road. In fairness the RC51 is probably a fantastic track bike, but I'm a commuter. So I didn't buy it.
At one time I loved that my 2009 1125R had NONE of these shortcomings; but as some on the Board know, in the end its many OTHER shortcomings overwhelmed what BMC got right on the R and so mine is for sale. I expect to get completely reamed on price. |
Brapbrapbrap
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 02:11 am: |
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Twins Rule! |
