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Larryv
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 11:28 am: |
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Was looking to buy an 09 1125R, but before I did I wanted to get feedback on any issues the bike has. Please let me know what issues you have had on your 2009 and the miles on the bike. Also, what was your OTD price for an 09? Thanks Larry (Message edited by larryv on April 20, 2009) (Message edited by larryv on April 20, 2009) |
Jaimec
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 11:39 am: |
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Well, I have an 09 "R" (not a "CR") but I'm assuming the problems would be the same. Basically, I spend far too much time looking in my (nearly useless) rearview mirrors for police cars 'cause I KNOW I'm riding WAY TOO FAST in regards to the posted speed limits, but the bike just makes it too damned EASY!! |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 12:03 pm: |
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Try long-stem Firebolt mirrors, they drop right in the mounting holes. I did mine and they are excellent MIRRORS. I ran my signals to the running lights, or you can add signals externally on the fairing. Z |
Clarkjw
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 03:16 pm: |
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Zac, pics of you running signals through headlights please! |
Ccryder
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 04:40 pm: |
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He is using the 2 outboard "running" lights as turn signals. If he was a real ET ;+} he would have a relay in there so they would burn all the time except, when he wanted them to blink. If you have issues with the mirrors vibrating, I squirted some RTV in the gap b/t the mirror and the housing. Some place in this forum you will see my post. Oh yeah here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/365649.html Time2Ride Neil S. |
Larryv
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 04:58 pm: |
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Please don't hijack my post. Any feedback out there? |
Hogs
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 05:20 pm: |
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Could call LArryv, Stick to the topic I want to know as well... Thanks |
1_mike
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 05:30 pm: |
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The above (vibrating mirrors) isn't hijacking this thread! This IS an issue! And Neil's FIX works well. NO reason to change mirrors....unless you feel the need to make your bike really "wide" and in the way of free hand movement with bar end mirrors. Mike |
Scubarc51
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 05:32 pm: |
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The mirrors on my 09' CR were useless and i had to go to barend mirrors, if your over 6' 3" like me all you see is your back tire, they dont adjust up high enough |
Ron_luning
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 05:34 pm: |
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2009 1125R with about 2000 miles. Paid $11,805 OTD in California. Problems include check engine lights for low fuel pressure, low fuel error, O2 sensor, and some others I can't remember right now. The mirrors do vibrate quite a bit, but not a huge deal. The solenoid removal is very easy and worth while. It looks like a tiny bit of the paint on the exhaust pipe has started to flake off where the exit spouts are welded on. When it gets hot, the fuel boils in the frame. It doesn't seem to have any adverse impact on performance or safety, but it is bizarre. The oil level check procedure is very inconsistent. Following the procedure to the letter, my particular bike shows nothing on the dipstick for the cold measurement, and in the middle of the acceptable range during the hot check. So if you check the oil level before you ride, it'll look way too low. If you add oil as would make sense, the level will be way too high when you check using the "hot" method. Which is correct...who knows? It looks like I'll only get another 1000 miles out of the rear tire. The biggest problem so far has been crap dealer service, including not even looking into warranty claims. Find a good dealer in your area, and ask around to get a feel for their service department. I bought from a good sales department, but the service guys couldn't care less. I do all maintenance myself, but warranty issues are another story. |
Eweaver
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 07:29 pm: |
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I put 12000 miles on my 2008, and loved it! Sure, there were some growing pains, but nothing too bad. Little did I know that I would trade it in for a 2009! Let me tell ya, the '09 is a more refined machine. It just feels a little better all over. Smoother throttle, smoother suspension, better charging system, and other little details sorted here and there. So far I haven't witnessed any issue with this bike whatsoever. (knock on wood) |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 08:14 pm: |
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The oil level check procedure is very inconsistent. Yep. You can say that again. My "correct" level when cold is at the "low" tick on the dipstick. Determined this after a few drain and fills. Got my bike back from the dealer recently and checked the oil in the morning--registered 3/4 towards the "full" mark. Checked it about 5 more times and finally sent my service mgr. a not-so-nice email about over-filling my oil AGAIN (would have been the 3rd time since purchase.) Then I went to my fluid evacuator to remove the over-fill and lo and behold--I couldn't get to any oil at all with the bike on the sidestand. This was distinctly different than the previous 2 times i had to remove oil. Hmmmm. Sent the service mgr. an apology, even though I was still confused about the apparent mis-reading. same check, same place in the garage a few days later and oil checked exactly at the "low" mark like normal. Go figure. |
Redscuell
| Posted on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 08:36 pm: |
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Larry, I will PM you with my issues with the 09 R. Otherwise the list is likely to cause anxiety amongst the faithful (you know who you are). |
Jaimec
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 07:40 am: |
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The only real issue I have (other than the tongue-in-cheek one I stated above) is the Low Fuel Light (LFL)/Check Engine Light (CEL) coming on when I start the bike in temperatures below 40 degrees. It's more of an annoyance than anything else and with the weather FINALLY warming up it doesn't happen anymore. Hopefully there will be a fix from the Factory before next winter. |
Zac4mac
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:25 am: |
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+1 Jaime I haven't seen the LFL/CEL combo for a week or two. Winter fuel is going away and what's in the frame is behaving better every fill-up. I've had several boiling events and one spew, found a kink in my vent line after the eruption at the gas cap. Z |
Spectrum
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:48 am: |
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The biggest problem so far has been crap dealer service This is in my opinion is the #1 issue that Buell faces. There needs to be a major initiative and attention from Buell management on resolving this issue. I see more complaints in this forum about poor dealer support and service than anything else. Not to mention my own first hand experience. With the attention Buell is getting from the 1125R race results, they have an opportunity to seriously grow the brand. This makes this issue all the more important to resolve. Court are you listening? Get this message to Buell! |
Mainstreamer
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:52 am: |
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"Larry, I will PM you with my issues with the 09 R. Otherwise the list is likely to cause anxiety amongst the faithful (you know who you are)." Redscuell, please share your issues so that we can all benefit from your experience. We know the "faithful" are, at times, not so very objective, but we can forgive them for their lust. } |
Redscuell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 01:47 am: |
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1.) Seat's too high (I'm 5'10"), 2.) windscreen's too low (I bought a Zero double bubble), 3.) muffler outlets are half the area (total) of the inlets (total), 4.) steering's undamped (I bought a GPR, set at 10), 5.) no petrol gauge (I was not told by dealer), 6.) doesn't get the claimed mileage (unless dropped by helicopter on the freeway @ 4,000 rpm in 6th and picked up at the end of my journey), 7.) instrument cluster's too low (I tried to relocate it up by 2" but harness is too short), 8.) spares are hard to come by (mine's been at the dealer a month, they say now will take from another bike), 9.) the rear brake doesn't (brake, that is), 10.) coolant level can't be seen (I drilled a hole in the outer shell, filled with plug), 11.) the two oil check methods can lead to overfilling (cold says low, hot says high), 12.) can't fit bigger sprocket/belt without expense of also changing swingarm, pulley. Other than that the 09 1125R is PERFECT. Price "on road", as we say here, was A$19,000, which at current exchange rates is U$13,300. That's a half-years pay, gross, for us Aussies. (Message edited by redscuell on April 22, 2009) |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 04:25 am: |
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1) I'm 6'1" and the seat is just fine. I've got short legs and your's are likely longer. You really want to post that it's the bikes fault on a personal issue? 30" seat height isn't all that uncommon. Looking for a cruiser? 2) More than big enough for me and I'm a bit big. First I'e heard of this one. Read #1 again. 3) Agreed, too bad Buell has to obey the law to stay in business. Same with license bracket. So fix it yourself like all the rest of us have to do with any motorcycle we buy. 4)I guess it's what your used to. I'm in triple digits a fair amount and I don't need one. Maybe if I spent more time there I'd feel a greater need for one. I've always seen that as an aftermarket option. 5)Are you serious? It's a motorcycle, not a car. I don't spent enough time looking at the dash to care and I can tell it's time for fuel by my mileage. 6)I've NEVER had a vehicle that got the claimed mileage unless I drive it the way the way the EPA test requires and that's NUTS! The mileage isn't great but it's been what I consider acceptable sense the re-flash. 7) LOL. Read #1 again. The tach and LCD are almost perfect. The idiot lights could be more like the XB's though. 8)I can't say about down under but up here getting parts for the first year 1125 has been much better than it was for the first year XB12. I've had the same if not worse problems with my Suzuki. Don't get me started on my buddy's Honda. And they are not even first year models! 9)Works just fine on my bike, it's not supposed to be too strong. Stronger than my XB's though. A lot more fine control with this style of brake. You can lock it up at any speed and that's all the rear brake thats possible. Why ruin them? 10)True. But it's rarely a problem with easy work-arounds. 11)True. But knowing the problem overcomes the problem. You soon learn the right place on the dipstick. 12)You really want to argue that? The advantages/disadvantages of belt vs. chain are WELL known now. The belt is for the street and keep the chain for the track. When I first saw belts on the way back I thought what a joke but they have taught me the error of my logic and that took a lot. The bike has excellent all round gearing for the street and if you want something more specific then you can pay for your chain, just don't force it on me. I feel for anyone who's having problems with their bike but I would be ashamed to have let my emotions push me into posting what some people are posting. |
Jaimec
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 08:28 am: |
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I'm 5' 10" and have absolutely NO issues with the seat. In fact, the Corbin I just installed raises me up even higher. Height means nothing. What's your inseam? Mine is 32" |
Mainstreamer
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 09:03 am: |
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Thanks for posting up Redscuell. While others may not agree with you I do appreciate all opinions on the subject. We all know that the faithful here believe all things Buell are perfect. I'll just sit back and watch, hope your wearing your flame proof suit!!! |
Ron_luning
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:12 am: |
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There is only one person so far that has let their emotions dictate their statements. Problems that are related to an individual's personal preferences are not emotional, they are just specific to one person. Trying to refute every statement from one person is clearly driven by emotion and not reason. Settle down, nothing is perfect, nothing ever will be (except me of course). |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 08:22 pm: |
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Not a problem Ron but I think you might have missed the meaning of my post. If a person jumps into a thread like this presenting his case point by point confusing his opinions as though they are facts he deserves to get it handed back to him. Was my counterpoint to Red mostly opinion? Of course. That was the point. Is my opinion just as valid as Red's. Absolutely. Did it help you or anybody else who came here looking for help? The factual parts might have for somebody but not the opinions. An education for some I hope. Everyone's opinion is worth listening to, once or maybe twice. But I'm tired of a small handful of people that want to act like little children and run into every thread where someone has asked for help and then try to out scream everyone else to prove themselves right. |
Ron_luning
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 08:32 pm: |
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I understand your meaning now, thanks. Like reading a newspaper, I suppose you need to try to look for a few absolute truths amongst a bunch of opinions on here. |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 08:58 pm: |
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Yes, you really do have to do some filtering. And yes, you even have to filter the pro side once in a while, but nothing like some nay-sayers would have you believe. It has been a fantastic source of information for me. |
Redscuell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:00 pm: |
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Unibear, you're negotiating with yourself, mate. My post is a carefully thought-out response to a request by Larryv, who initiated this thread. My experience with the 1125R is fact, just as your is; you're satisfied with the quirks of the R, and I'm not. Neither makes me wrong or you right; what it makes is feedback for Larryv. Next time, keep your opinions about MY opinions to yourself, and limit yourself to your opinions. Period. I didn't post to have a debate with you or anyone else; I posted my analyses based on fact, and you can take 'em or leave 'em; I really don't care. But I DO care if you can't keep your opinions about MY opinions to yourself. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:09 am: |
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1.) Seat's too high (I'm 5'10"), 2.) windscreen's too low (I bought a Zero double bubble), 3.) muffler outlets are half the area (total) of the inlets (total), 4.) steering's undamped (I bought a GPR, set at 10), 5.) no petrol gauge (I was not told by dealer), 6.) doesn't get the claimed mileage (unless dropped by helicopter on the freeway @ 4,000 rpm in 6th and picked up at the end of my journey), 7.) instrument cluster's too low (I tried to relocate it up by 2" but harness is too short), 8.) spares are hard to come by (mine's been at the dealer a month, they say now will take from another bike), 9.) the rear brake doesn't (brake, that is), 10.) coolant level can't be seen (I drilled a hole in the outer shell, filled with plug), 11.) the two oil check methods can lead to overfilling (cold says low, hot says high), 12.) can't fit bigger sprocket/belt without expense of also changing swingarm, pulley. Other than that the 09 1125R is PERFECT. Holy smokes. I have read it all now. The ONLY thing you listed that's valid is the oil check procedure niggle. You need to get rid of that piece of sh&t immediately.....and buy yourself a Goldwing. |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 02:11 am: |
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You are a hoot there Red! Entertaining for sure. Stick to the logical facts and you get a logical debate. Open the door on personal opinion and everybody gets to debate your opinion. Politely and within the rules, but your opinion is still fair game. You are not the only one who gets to speak his mind if that's what's on the menu. If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. |
Black9
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 09:15 am: |
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Maybe ya should have rode one first.... |
Badlionsfan
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 09:29 am: |
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.....or at least sat on one. |
Dirty_john
| Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 03:01 am: |
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Worst thing about my 09 1125R - I work in London all week and my bike is in Chester - UK that is. Despite the niggling little issues I have a grin from ear to ear each time I ride the bike - even in the rain |
Ruprecht
| Posted on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 03:29 am: |
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1.) Seat's too high (I'm 5'10"), 2.) windscreen's too low (I bought a Zero double bubble), 3.) muffler outlets are half the area (total) of the inlets (total), 4.) steering's undamped (I bought a GPR, set at 10), 5.) no petrol gauge (I was not told by dealer), 6.) doesn't get the claimed mileage (unless dropped by helicopter on the freeway @ 4,000 rpm in 6th and picked up at the end of my journey), 7.) instrument cluster's too low (I tried to relocate it up by 2" but harness is too short), 8.) spares are hard to come by (mine's been at the dealer a month, they say now will take from another bike), 9.) the rear brake doesn't (brake, that is), 10.) coolant level can't be seen (I drilled a hole in the outer shell, filled with plug), 11.) the two oil check methods can lead to overfilling (cold says low, hot says high), 12.) can't fit bigger sprocket/belt without expense of also changing swingarm, pulley. Other than that the 09 1125R is PERFECT. Price "on road", as we say here, was A$19,000, which at current exchange rates is U$13,300. That's a half-years pay, gross, for us Aussies. Sounds like the Buell difference just wasn't your thing... none of those issues (except the parts one) are enough to put me off getting one. The sticking point for me is the last thing you mentioned... $$$. Have you listed yours in the bike trader yet? |
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