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Jmr1283
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 04:45 pm: |
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Figured this is a handy thread to start since tires are very important to our well being and to the enjoyment of our 1125's. there's tons of options and with each companies new ideas and technology its only getting tougher to decide. so if uve tested them please let us know ur opinion. it probably doesnt have to be 1125 specific either, maybe a similar powered bike, weight, etc. let the fun begin |
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Clarkjw
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 04:56 pm: |
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2 cents: Know how you're gonna use the tire. Trust the tire brands that race your bike type (twin, liter, supersport, tripple, etc). If you go to the track or even watch road racing, you'll realize how important tires are. In order of prestige are Bridgestone, Pirelli, Michelin, Dunlop. I personally refuse to ride Dunlops because I don't the the tire profile. It's still a good tire for small displacement bikes, but the oval shape makes it stand up in braking. |
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Codename_loki
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:37 pm: |
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Ok, maybe this is a good place to start. I have an 08 1125R with 4,000 miles on her. The bike is completely stock, including the Pirelli Diablo Corsa 111's. I had just over 2K miles on her in Houston last Tuesday when I left and the tires were in great shape. I made the cross country trip from Houston to Boston, roughly 2,000 miles, and the rear tire's cords are exposed in a 1 inch band (width) on only half of the tires circumference. What the heck? This can't be normal. Anyone else here have anything similar? I have never done a burnout, barely done a wheelie, and overall am a pretty conservative rider. I called Buell customer service to get Pirelli's claims number and they didn't have it. Their suggestion is to take it to the local dealer and have service check out the tire and have dealer service then report back to Buell customer service. I called the local dealer, they'll take it in and look at it, but they don't stock the Corsa 111's, and were up front in saying that it may take 2 weeks to get one in, depending on the prognosis. I'll keep everyone posted on progress, but may need your help Court, or others as I need to be up and running asap... I miss Houston! Thanks for listening. |
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Codename_loki
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:40 pm: |
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One more detail, I always check and maintain the tire pressure as specified by the owners manual. |
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Clarkjw
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 05:50 pm: |
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Code, what bike did you ride before the 1125r? Tell me your supsension settings (preload, compression rebound - front and rear), personal weight height and whether you had any bags. If you had bags were they front rear or both? |
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Codename_loki
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:00 pm: |
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Hi Clark. I came from a VFR 800 Interceptor. I'm 5'11" and weigh roughly 185 lbs. I had a tiny backpack bungee corded to the rear passenger seat and I myself wore a second small backpack, both very light, maybe 10 lbs each or so. As far as suspension settings, I had the dealer do a basic setup based on my weight before I took delivery. Sorry I don't have those numbers, but the machine handled great even with the slight additional weight. No wallowing as with a passenger on the back. |
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Samcol
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:02 pm: |
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Code that's about right for diablos. Mine did the exact same thing. Tire looked decent, long road trip and I've got 1 inch of cords with 500 miles left for home. Not fun. You get what you pay for, and the best tire in my opinion is the michelin pilot power 2cts. Decent prices can be had online. You can ride agressively with them and still have the tire last awhile. My last bike they went 2000 miles further than diablos or dunlops, and still had a thousand or so left in them when I wrecked the bike. |
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Codename_loki
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:11 pm: |
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Ok, I'm surprised by the wear at this mileage, not necessarily by the lack of useable tire after 4,000 miles, but moreso by the way the tire only wore on one half of it's circumference. I'm no expert on tire wear, but this seems very strange to me to the point of suspecting faulty manufacturing. Is it not strange that only half the tire is worn, while the other half has great tread as indicated by the wear bars? |
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Samcol
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:17 pm: |
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I kinda mis-read your post, but ya mine did the exact same thing. I don't like those tires much at all anymore. The wear goes from fine to cords in a ridiculously short amount of miles. |
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Clarkjw
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 06:30 pm: |
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Snap a picture. That kind of irregular wear is USUALLY front end setup, as crazy as it seems. I ride hard, have 2 trackdays on the bike and 4k miles. I can get at least 4k more out of the rear and 8k from the front. Since you came from an interceptor, I'll assume you know how to push the front and don't steer with your ass. However, just cause the bike is comfortable sitting upright doesn't mean you should steer it like a lazy Harley guy. Preload is the most important part of suspension EVER. Weigh yourself with gear and bags before you ride. I will assume you are 215 with all your gear. Log on the Buell and get the standard specs or PM me. Always assume you're heavier than lighter. Showa forks are tougher to get accurate preload than Ohlins. It can be done though. But you MUST do this perfectly EVEN on both forks. Simple unscientific test. When you come to a stop sign from 20 mph on a smooth road, press the front brake firmly an come to a controlled stop. Don't drop your FEET. You should be able to balance for 2 seconds. If not, note the side you leaned to. Repeat 2x to confirm. The side you fall towards has too much relative preload. Get the turn counts right. The rear is easy. You don't need help. |
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Ron_luning
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 07:44 pm: |
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I've had sudden wear in only one part of a car tire, and that was due to a drastic imbalance. You could have a motorcycle shop check the balance on your rear wheel, but now that all the rubber is gone it could have equalled itself out. |
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Ccryder
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:43 pm: |
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Pirelli Corsa III: Great grip and response, ~3,600 miles. Conti Road Attack: Pretty good grip good all around weather tire, ~6,600 miles. Michelin Pilot Road 2 (with 2CT technology): very good grip, very predicable, all weather confidence ~9,500+ miles. My pick is the Pilot Road 2, at least for another 9k miles, for my riding style and day-in-day-out 300 days a year. Later Neil S. |
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Rotax2
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 10:24 pm: |
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my corsa 111 rear was totally gone after 3500 miles(probably unroadworthy @ about 3000 miles).I just switched to a pirelli rosso dual compound and it looks like after 2000 miles to have plenty left. |
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Scubarc51
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 10:36 pm: |
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pilot power 2cts
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07xb12ss
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 10:58 pm: |
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id love to give some feedback but i keep getting flats before a tire is due - although it seems the corsa IIIs wear quickly - thinking of going to stradas - any complaints on this tire? |
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Scubarc51
| Posted on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 11:06 pm: |
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ill definatly stick with the Corsa 3's i know they wear fast but they have the best feel and soft grip that i know if i take a hard fast corner my tires are good and will grip, sport touring tires may last longer but the harder compound wont stick as good as sticky corsas, i dont mind chaging them every 3000 miles cause i trust there grip over harder tires that would be cheaper, longer lasting, but might not hold at full lean under throtle and spin and cause a low side or worse high side at speed.![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/jerkin.gif) |
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Hayabusa
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 10:31 am: |
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I have had pilot powers on all my other sport bikes and loved them! There are my 2 cents. |
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Bobup
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 10:48 am: |
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do a search and you will find other discussions from last year on tires.... me...my Corsa IIIs only lasted about 4,000 and started to slip in the turns....not a good feeling now I have the Pirelli Scorpian Syncs (same as what was stock on my '05 XB9SX) and love em...and get at least 8,000 when they start to slip just my .01 (Obama deflated my .02) bob |
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Dipstick
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:48 am: |
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My rear Corsa III was gone at 2400 mi. on my 1125R showing cords down the center. The Pirellis on my old XB12 were gone at 1000 mi. but were run at the recommended 36 psi cold for the rear. The rear Corsa III on my 1125R was run at 28 psi cold and warmed up it reads 32-33 psi. My next tires will be Michelin 2CT's, I have given up on Pirelli. |
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1_mike
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 02:33 pm: |
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I also have been using the Pilot Power tires for the last coupla years. Ok mileage Very good dry traction Pretty good wet traction Take a while to warm up on cold days Warm up fairly quickly above 60 degrees ambient temp. They do NOT like painted stripes on the road that don't have the "grit" in the paint for traction. And it gets real bad on rainy days. Runs ok when flat. Keeps the rim of the wheel off the ground..!! I put about 35 miles on a flat rear tire with no wheel damage. A pair will be going on my CR when required. Mike P.s. That picture above looks scary... |
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Eaton_corners
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 02:51 pm: |
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I typically get around 4500-5000 mi on Pirelli Diablo Supersport rears. I got about the same on my Original Corsa III's. According to a reputable local shop, tire pressure has a lot to do with tire wear. His Dunlop rep said if you run recommended max inflation per manufacturer you will get the most mileage. However, traction may be compromised in extreme cornering situations. Just as a reference, I keep mine at 34F/36R, which is what the owners manual lists. Most track riders will run around 30 psi front and rear. Pirelli lists max load capacity at 42 psi. |
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Kttemplar
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 02:57 pm: |
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I got 9000 miles out of my rear Corsa III. I just switched it to a Rosso. I don't use my back brake at all. I do not know if that has anything to do with it. I also run 34 psi front and 36 psi rear. I have 9500 miles on the front tire and it will get changed as soon as I get the new Rosso front in the mail next week. Mike (Message edited by kttemplar on April 22, 2009) |
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Fresnobuell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 03:22 pm: |
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Bridgestone BT-016. On my second set of the 016s and I love 'em. One of the few (if not only) sets of tires with dual compound fronts adn tri-compound rears. Wonderful track/aggresive street tire. I got about 3,000 miles on the last set (like most probably 500 past the point of when the SHOULD have been changed,) but they also went to the track a half a dozen times. And one of the BEST things is how inexensive the 016s are...I paid $127 and $95 for the last set. IMO an impossible combo of performance and price to beat I can't wait to try the next-gen Battlax BT-003RS. http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=36200 |
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Pa1125r
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 09:54 pm: |
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When the Corsa III's wear out they will be replaced by a set of Conti Road Attacks. I had these on my Hayabusa and was getting 10,000 miles out of them. I think the Conti's are a great tire especially if you do alot of highway riding. My brothr-in-law runs the Conti's on his XB-9 with no chicken strips and has not had any problem with them sticking. |
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Eaton_corners
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:17 pm: |
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Fresnobuell, are the 016's comparable to diablos or are they a track tire? I have seen them at very good prices but didn't know what to compare them with. |
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Fresnobuell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:52 pm: |
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I never have run the Diablos, but I checked them out and they look like a quality high-performance tire. If you are talking expected mileage, I would guess the two are very comparable. However....I am hooked on the multi-compound tires as it just makes sense to me. How many times have you looked at a squared off rear tire and thought, "Man, it sure would be nice if they made a harder rubber in the middle?" Now I don't really know how much harder the middle is on the 016 (my guess not too much if any compared to a single compound tire in its performance category,) but the two zones on the outside of the tire are definitely progressively softer. I just wish that Bridgestone made the edges even softer, but then one has to realize that they can't be TOO soft otherwise guys that REALLY give the rear tire a workout would burn them up in a day or less. (Message edited by fresnobuell on April 22, 2009) |
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Xbswede
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:08 am: |
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I am currently running the BT-016 and I like them a lot other then how fast they wear. The back is not to bad but the front tire I feel is too soft. At 2000 miles my front is flush with the wear indicators on the sides while my rear still has another 300 - 500 before hitting the wear indicator. These are as Fresno says about a 2500 mile tires. |
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Fresnobuell
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:14 am: |
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I agree Swede, the front sides go fast. Never have I had a front wear out in sync with the rear, but they did with my last set of the 016s....so let me re-phrase, I would like them to make the rear softer on the edges. Good call. |
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Rockstarblast1
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 09:22 am: |
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Sorry I don't know much about tires are the corsa III a multi compound tire? |
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Eaton_corners
| Posted on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 10:46 am: |
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The Corsa III's have a dual compound rear only, the front is single compound. But I still wore the center out on the rear first. Riding back and forth to work without really working the bike does not wear the sides very much. |
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