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Hexangler
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 02:57 pm: |
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Last night I scoured the internet for preventative measures to Urushiol autoimmune reaction. I got some good links and will share them tonight when I get home. I have used Technu soap with moderate success, and I found a new product IvyBlock which is a topical barrier, but haven't tried it yet. I know a lot of you guys are military, fire, and emergency affiliated. Any suggestions? |
Citified
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 03:09 pm: |
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leaves of three, leave it be |
Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 03:11 pm: |
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My family doesn't get poison Ivy, must be genetic. |
86129squids
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 03:14 pm: |
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Check and see if you can find info on "Liquid Gloves". Might be useful. |
Damnut
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 03:18 pm: |
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Check and see if you can find info on "Liquid Gloves". Might be useful. Isn't that used on your........... oh nevermind. |
Hexangler
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 03:21 pm: |
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I know a lot of you guys are military, fire, and emergency affiliated. ...add hillbillies to the list... |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 03:28 pm: |
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It is an allergy like any other. Some people are allergic, some not. I was severely allergic as a kid, but then for about a 5 year period in my adolescence I would get shots every 2 weeks for a few months each year. Don't know if they still do this, but I am barely allergic anymore. |
Patrickmitchell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 03:40 pm: |
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Technu makes a suntan like lotion that you put on prior to heading into the great outdoors (must be similar to the barrier you describe). If you use the lotion, take a shower with their soap, and wash the exposed clothes, you should be in pretty good shape. A whole company of Marines used it very successfully. |
Sayitaintso
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 04:20 pm: |
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Just be very careful of that crap burning. While on the Army we had some douche pull down some vines and add it to the small fire we had going for heating or MREs. None of us noticed what he was putting intot he fire until it was too late. It put me in the hospital for three days. In his defense, he didn't know it was poison ivy/oak/sumac b/c it was winter and there were no leaves..... but still. I've always had severe reactions it the stuff and have learned its just best to be on the look out for it at all times and avoid it at all costs. I've never heard or seen anything that will prevent it if the stuff (sap/oil) gets on you or your clothes and then on you. |
Firstbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 04:26 pm: |
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I really suffered with poison oak after I took up mtn biking in mid-90s IIRC, Technu & IvyBlok are made by the same chemical company, in Louisville, KY one's used before you ride, the other for cleaning up afterwards - they worked pretty well what worked best? - buying the M2 in '99 & simply not riding the mtn bike any more.... now all I 'itch' for is Buell AMA race wins!! please let us know what you uncover about effective preventatives & treatments |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 04:26 pm: |
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Did some research. The FDA banned the preventative shots in 2004, because the drug did not perform as well as it should have. It worked for me though. |
Sayitaintso
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 04:33 pm: |
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Did some research. The FDA banned the preventative shots in 2004, because the drug did not perform as well as it should have. It worked for me though. They didn't do diddly crap for me...but then I had them back in the early 70's. So they may have changed over the years. |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 04:43 pm: |
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I went from hospitalizations, to barely getting a blister or two from the same exposure. I had 'em in the mid 80's so maybe they refined it a bit. I remember the injection site itching like a mofo. |
Firstbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 05:00 pm: |
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the kinda effective shots I rec'd twice [after mtn bike riding] were prednazone or cortisone or some such - my regular physician went ape when he heard that, saying NO cortisone shots ever, unless my health's super-critical - I don't remember why..... |
Ulynut
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 06:20 pm: |
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I can catch poison ivy by just looking at it too hard. That Ivy Block stuff does help a lot. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 06:43 pm: |
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Isn't Benadril used for allergic reactions? |
Firstbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 06:58 pm: |
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for me, anyway, topical application of Benadryl is the poison oak equivalent of spittin' into the ocean - makes zero difference...... |
Johnnylunchbox
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 08:08 pm: |
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Ourdee, benadryl is a good start, taken before the serious inflammation sets in. Cortisone and other steroids are the last resort, and they are not good for you at all. |
Slipknot
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 08:19 pm: |
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If you know you've contacted it wash off with soap and water. I'm very allergic to poison ivy and it works. If you react to it you can use Benadryl or Calamine lotion. Also you can use the juice of Rhubarb to help control itching. If you have some left over you can make a pie. |
Mikexlr650
| Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 - 08:53 pm: |
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i've used bleach after contact with it. effective but not so good for you. |
Hexangler
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 12:50 am: |
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Yup, read that bleach works, as well as gasoline, and just plain water if applied immediately after contact. Fly fishing season is on its way, and all of the nearby fisheries are also Poison Oak nurseries. I am mildly sensitive to Poison Oak, but my lady is hypersensitive, and because of this she has refused to go backpacking, hiking, and fishing below 4,000 ft. The problem is if I go alone or with others, I inevitably bring the crap back with me, infecting her. This season I'm going to try to be smart about it. Here are the links about poison oak that I uncovered, and any advise from the board will be appreciated: http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?request=get-d ocument&issn=1080-6032&volume=017&issue=02&page=01 20 http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0802.htm#stemxs http://www.curtbeebe.com/index.html http://www.googobits.com/articles/p0-1960-soothing -remedies-for-poison-ivy-and-poison-oak.html Thanks again! |
86129squids
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 01:27 am: |
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+1, leaves or no, watch out! Heard about a buddy who burned a fair amount, that stuff SHOULD NEVER be breathed in as smoke. As a kid who grew up with asthma, that gives me nightmares. That wilderness is still out there. Any word on "Liquid Gloves" availability? |
Dfishman
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 05:52 am: |
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When I was a kid I could play in it all day & never itch.Then in 89' I wrecked a 450 nighthawk wearing shorts & a t-shirt.I slid under cedar trees with my head laying on the tank to keep from getting decapitated,well just past the cedar trees was plenty of poison ivy,I guess bare skin-60 mph = a bad dose of it.Now I get it real easy. |
M2statz
| Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 01:04 pm: |
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Technu makes a suntan like lotion that you put on prior to heading into the great outdoors (must be similar to the barrier you describe). If you use the lotion, take a shower with their soap, and wash the exposed clothes, you should be in pretty good shape. A whole company of Marines used it very successfully. +1 on this!!! This is what I normally follow. Works the best so far. I just look at the stuff and start to break out. Then it is on to the heavy doses of steroids(Prednezone) not fun! |
Aesquire
| Posted on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 06:50 pm: |
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Remember that it's the oils that affect you, so any wash that de-greases is best. Soap, etc. Don't use gasoline, since some of the compounds ( additives ) go through skin much more than the old days. Barriers are good, ( washing clothing without touching it is an interesting thing ) education on habitat & identification vital. Campers get sent to the hospital every year because some bozo threw poison vines on the camp fire. Nasty stuff to breath. |
Speedfreaks101
| Posted on Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 11:40 pm: |
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I have been told by a dermatologist that one you have come in contact with one of these that you should lay your clothes off to the side for at least two weeks. The reason is that oils for the plant will only transfer to other clothing if washed and can stay active for about two weeks. If left to "air out" the oils break down and dissipate. Also my experience is that pouring 85-90% isopropyl alcohol over the rash area, then sprinkling with baking soda is the best way to prevent "weeping" of the rash. This also seems to shorten the time of having the rash. |
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