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Jayhark
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gang, just purchased a new 2007 XB12X to replace my KLR650. Can't wait for the snow to melt in the Northeast.

It came without racks or luggage so I am looking at the options available. I've seen the Caribou setup and today I checked out the Buell Outdoorsman set up.

I can purchase the Buell Outdoorsman set from a Harley dealer with a 20% discount that would save me appx $200 over the Caribou.

Are these my best options for price and durability? Any other setups I am overlooking?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Jay
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Itileman
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a set of side cases and mounting racks on ebay. Auction ends 7:30 PM PST. Will save you a bunch of $$$$.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=110356721986
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I HATED the Buell bags. I would recommend the Outdoorsman bags over the regular bags. The latches are much better.

They aren't quite as big, but I believe they are better made. Additionally, the racks are oriented the way the rest of the H&B racks are, so you would be able to utilize the same racks with different H&B bags.
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Markog
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have the caribou set, it's good stuff. it's kinda like having crash bars for the boston traffic, on the downside, you can't get a helmet in them.
marko
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Dirtysouth
Posted on Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought Happy Trail side racks, mounting hardware, and 2 pelican 1520s for less than $500 shipped to the house.



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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Additionally, the racks are oriented the way the rest of the H&B racks are, so you would be able to utilize the same racks with different H&B bags.

Has anyone yet tried mounting a set of HB aluminum cases on the Outdoorsman's racks?

I now it didn't work every well on the Journey racks...especially since they had to be mounted backwards.

Tipsy
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The angle and orientation was all fubed up.

I'd like to see the H&B bags.

I doubt anyone has mounted any since you can't get the rack without the Outdoorsman bags. Would suck to buy a set and then turn around and buy the aluminum cases.
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I doubt anyone has mounted any since you can't get the rack without the Outdoorsman bags. Would suck to buy a set and then turn around and buy the aluminum cases.

I just figured that someone who has the Outdoorsman bags might have a buddy with HB aluminum cases...to try it out.

Every time I go to bike night here in NYC just about every type of side case made is a bike or two away.

Tipsy
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 03:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could try these........

https://www.metalmule.com/shop-online/motorcycle/l uggage-systems/buell.html
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Staves
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm going to be looking into this set of aluminum cases. $400 per set, powder coated inside and out + $75 for a universal mounting kit that works on any 1/2" metal tube rack.

http://www.advmachines.com/product_p/panblk1001.ht m
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Nutsosane
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are Pelican 1520 cases on Fleabay now for $50.
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Prowler
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A set of Pelican 1520's for $125 is a great deal. Pick up the Buell O.E. side racks/x-member for $185, top rack/x-member for $135 and either make your own hardware or buy the universal mounts (Happy Trail's $50)and you've got a nice set of bags for really cheap. I've got Pelican 1500's on the O.E. racks and they're perfect for my needs.

(Buell part costs based on Chicago H-D's 20% off costs.)



(Message edited by prowler on March 04, 2009)
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dirtysouth,

That looks like a very nice set up you have there
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here is a link for you

http://www.touratech-usa.com/shop/usa.lasso?SubCat =Ulysses

K
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Yooper71
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also have Pelican 1500's on O.E. side racks with homemade mounts. Total I think it cost me $300. The 1500's are sufficient and didn't even drop my mileage because they aren't hanging out in the wind.


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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're going to have a tough time doing any better than this . . . tight as a drum, good looking, the room of a small rental truck and well built.

I'm a fan of Pelican stuff (I had the nice folks at Pelican make me some custom made international orange luggage) but for motorcycle applications it's drawback is weight. I want my weight in the form of carrying capacity not the weight of the luggage.

Court









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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court...it's OK to let the bike get dirty...lol

Weight capacity versus weight of the cases themselves (tare weight)...that's a mostly-missed part of the equation. If you plan on using them for sliders, go heavy. If you plan on using them to carry a lot of stuff, go light and roomy. It makes a big difference in how much stuff you can carry.

(Message edited by ratbuell on March 04, 2009)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This may also be of interest . . . things are REALLY well thought out and built.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That brings up a question, Court. They show rear turn signals as part of the kit...is it just longer wires due to the mounting position? I've been trying to figure that out, and the only bike I've seen in person with outdoorsman bags is our XP, and it's already built...I can't decide if I want to switch my racks over to Outdoorsman racks and keep using my Journey cases (turned around, latches to the back, and moved back about an inch and a half on the bike). But, I just rebuilt my turn signals with LED internals and would hate to have to re-do that. If it's just a 'wire stretch', I can build a pigtail extension....
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm a Pelican fan too, but those look really good Court, are they the Outdoorsman cases?
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>.is it just longer wires due to the mounting position?

Correct. I have comparison of both side by side if you need them.

Those are Outdoorsman cases and as a long time long distance touring rider . . they are the cats meow. The latch and hinge systems are simple and effective. The bags are well built as is the support system. I can, while sitting on the bike, open the top case and retrieve (although it's a bit iffy) my camera.

I have orders another foam set (you wanna see pricey check them out) from Pelican and am making a custom insert for the top case to accommodate cameras, lens, flash units, tripods and so forth.

If you need more detailed photos or data let me know. I stay in pretty close touch with the luggage folks. Buell worked really hard to get this right.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Correct. I have comparison of both side by side if you need them.

That's OK, as long as I know it's the only difference I can make extension pigtails. I just figured Buell would have done that cost-wise (a short length of wire with four barrel connectors), instead of including a new pair of signals, so I figured there was something "else" that had changed. They *looked* the same...but again, our XP is already built so I haven't had a chance to go elbows-deep in it.

Yet : )

I'm trying to get them to let me install the response kit ("to keep labor costs down"). If that happens, I'll be sure to document the pieces/parts for you since I know you have a few of them already.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the Outdoorsman bags are fantastic looking and have to latch better than the other Journeyman bags.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court,
Looks like you're groovin on your ULY.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The big difference between the Journey bags and the Outdoorsman bags is, the outdoorsman bags use what looks like the same latch to hold the bag shut as it does to hold the bag to the bike. Very stout. You can also latch without locking, which means you don't *have* to grab a key every time you need into a bag.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Court...it's OK to let the bike get dirty...lol

Don't knock yourself out worrying about me . . . this was taken a couple days after I stood it back up. . . 65 MPH winds blew it over so it laid on it's side for a week.

It has yet to be washed since I got it . . . I may do a "spring cleaning" but the day the good weather gets here I'm going to be ready.

I've got about 3 more mods to do for this season and I'll be riding . . . I'll wash it when the weather gets crummy.

: )


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Mnrider
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody want a beat up set of journey bags(and I do mean beat up).I want the outdoors man set.They look great.
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Tginnh
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ft_bstrd is right, the latches on the original bags suck! I broke one not long after I purchased the bike.

I wrote Buell when I found out about the outdoorsman bags to see if there was some sort of swap we could do, but no dice. The original bags are big and look good, but the latch is so bad that it kills those facets.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quit your bitching and get the 40L Juniors. Almost the same space as the 42L Journeys, but without the latch issues.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I checked on the Juniors. They don't fit on the Buell hoops. The attachment hoops are on the wrong side and the Juniors are directional.

It doesn't matter with the Journeyman bags because they are non-directional.
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