| Author | Message | ||
     Riviera |
I'm considering adding one behind rear cylinder. http://www.coolerguys.com/sff21.html I would imagine you'd want it pulling air across cylinder jug, blowing towards rear of bike, yes? Anyone out there ever added one? Any opinions? I need help on how/where to make electrical connections. | ||
| Oldog |
Buell still offers a kit, some have added one I did for a while and did not like it. I think you will be hard pressed to place a fan behind the rear head that exhausts to the rear, definately on the X1 the oil tank is there. the XB bikes have a fan there, but the oil is in the swing arm. | ||
| Riviera |
My S3 has a fairly open space behind the rear cylinder, with the battery on the other side of this space, but still forward of the frame downtubes. behind these frame tubes is the oil tank, above the rear tire. Why didn't you like your fan? The Buell-offered fan kit is like $200. The aftermarket fan I linked to will allow me to try whether I like it for about $25. | ||
| Dfbutler |
The Buell fan kit is weatherproof and has a temperature sensor. Mine runs mostly after I turn off the motor and the heat builds up with no airflow. | ||
| Riviera |
I only foresee manually running the fan while crawling in traffic. I'm thinking that a heat rise once engine is off shouldn't be an issue. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
is that fan you linked to a computer fan? hahaha, thats not gonna work, if the wind is blowing 2mph outside it will probably work more than that fan. i think im just gonna grab an xb fan and mount her up the horn side of my x1 and blow air between the heads onto the intake manifold (Message edited by limitedx1 on February 24, 2009) | ||
| Riviera |
Do you know the cfm of that XB fan? | ||
| Dave_02_1200 |
Check with laFayette (Buellistic). He has used one on his S3 for some time and has posted information about it somewhere on the board. Sounds like a good idea for those who live in a warm place and ride in slow traffic. | ||
| Bikerjim99 |
I use a XB fan mounted between the heads on the left side of the bike. Works well when I am stuck in traffic. I use a weatherproof toggle switch mounted in an existing hole by the instrument cluster. | ||
| Hootowl |
The Buell fan was designed to cool the intake manifold to overcome EFI issues related to the poor quality of gasoline in Japan. However, I found (as I hoped I would) that it prevents pinging at low engine speeds and stop and go driving in very hot weather. This was with a stock ECM with a 99 map. The air blowing across the intake takes a good bit of heat from the cylinders along with it. Definitely worth the $200 IMO. Buell makes an S3 specific fan that has the Buell logo on it. The X1 fan is plain. | ||
| Preybird1 |
i would not use the computer fan you have there it is not powerful enough to cool a motor while moving forward, You are gonna want to use the buell kit here is the kit link http://www.buell.com/en_us/gear/accessories/produc t.asp?Menu_ID=2&ProductLineID=6&CategoryID=6&Produ ctID=1292 When the bike gets to hot it will pull the ignition on every other compression and it will feel like it is missing. It is supposed to do that but i took the side scoop off mine and i need the fan kit also. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
does anybody have a pic of the last fan installed? | ||
| Hootowl |
I do not as it is behind the left side scoop, and not really visible. Note that you have to relocate the horn. I suggest you replace the weak stock horn with one from a Blast if you're going to have it off anyway. The Blast horn is quite loud in comparison. I stuck it under the seat out of site. | ||
| Buellistic |
Riviera: How about posting the pictures of the the fan set up on my 1997 S3T that "i" sent you ??? | ||
| Brokeneck |
I've got the S3 fan kit on my 2000. The dealer paid for it and installed it for free when I was unable to ride urban areas when it was over 90 The bike was still under warranty and I basically told them they could have it back if I could only ride it at night when the air was cool. I think the thin air in Denver made the overheating problems worse than at lower altitudes. I haven't had any summertime rideablity issues since it was installed but I also went to the race ecm supertrapp and forcewinder at about the same time -- so who knows. I do like the look and it sounds kind of cool when it's running and the bike is off. | ||
| Thunderhead |
i have a 125hp FXR. we go out to the indy 500 each year and sit in almost stopped traffic for hours. i feel like the engine is going to melt. having a cooling fan never even crossed my mind. i knew i liked you guys!now if i could only get the pro clutch a little lighter on the hand. | ||
| Buellsrule |
You don't need a cooling fan for the tuber's. If it tickles your fancy then go ahead but it's definitely not needed. | ||
| Hootowl |
I needed one. Unless you consider pinging under mild acceleration from a stop a good thing. The early 99 ECMs were a bit too lean for stop and go in hot weather. I did it to save my engine, and I'd call that a need. | ||
| Buellsrule |
The stock ecm on the '99's is way lean cooling fan or not. A lean engine is one that will not last as long as it should. Put the race ecm on the bike and forget about it. In ten years of Buelling, I've never heard of a cooling fan for bad Japanese gas. Why would Buell offer the cooling fan here in the US when we don't have bad Jap gas? Maybe Court could weigh in on this subject. Once again, if it makes you happy, by all means buy one. I stand by the other thousands of S3 owners (the vast majority) that don't have cooling fans. I've ridden my bike all over the eastern US and to Sturgis from Tennessee in August in 90-100 deg. weather. You still don't "need" a cooling fan. Rant over. Ride safe, Frank | ||
| Oldog |
Rivi: I used a computer fan, the hot air it moved blew against my right leg, and it did not last - nor did it help the issues related to heat the dealer changed out the ecm, that helped. | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: The bottom line is the fan is controlled by a "THERMOSTAT SWITCH" !!! If your engine gets hot enough to turn the "THERMOSTAT SWITCH" on, that alone would indicate the fan is a good idea ... Have been running the OEM fan for years !!! Have mine wired so when "i" turn my engine off the fan comes on before the engine starts to "COOK IT'S SELF" ... Air cooled engines tend to get very hot when you turn them off ... This heat cooks oil, gaskets(weepers), and what ever else does not need the additional heat ... | ||
| Hootowl |
"Why would Buell offer the cooling fan here in the US when we don't have bad Jap gas?" The fan is stock on Japanese model Buells. I do not know why they made it available in the states. Maybe because they could? I don't know, but I'm glad they did. | ||
| Hootowl |
"You still don't "need" a cooling fan." If you had said "I still don't "need" a cooling fan." then I would agree with you. | ||
| Buellistic |
Have 106,551.0 miles on my 1997 S3T as of the last ride ... Top-End has never been off !!! IMHO, anything "i" do to make a LONG LASTING "BUELL" is what it is all about ... What is your mileage ??? Fans for Harly-Davidsons were available long before you were born, so this is not a new thing ... | ||
| Buellsrule |
Thousands of tube frame Buell's. A few hundred with cooling fans installed (at most). Sort of like Balance Masters balancers for the engine and clutch assembly. If they were so great (or truly needed), the factory would have made them original equipment. I'm glad you two like your fans. I've got nothing against them just know they're not needed. You get the last word on this thread. Stay cool. | ||
| Dragonwing |
Installed a factory kit on my 2000 S3 last summer. Does the job. I like it. That's all that matters to me. DW | ||
| Xodot |
If you use a fan, choose one that is made for that type of installation. Put computer fans in .... yea, computers. There is reason for the difference in price for one for your ride IMHO. You get what you pay for - if you are lucky! | ||
| Froggy |
Does the fan run after the bike is shut off like the XB? If I get a X1 I might go through fan withdrawal. | ||
| Hootowl |
If you install it according to the instructions, then yes, it does. | ||
| Impala |
In Las Vegas a fan would be nice. My X1 pings like crazy in traffic and my old Sportster would actually shut off. The police depts run 100+ octane race gas to keep their Glides from knocking. So it depends on where you live and riding conditions. I am sure if I abused my X1 in the heat I could get it to go boom.... | ||
| Newbuellertoo |
I just got mine in the mail yesterday. (Thanks Casey). I sit in traffic on the way to my new job in the cage now. I know it's going to be hot and nasty when the summer hits with the 90 degree temps and the humidity so the fan can't hurt. | ||
| Brokeneck |
Gary -- Good choice -- You're gonna like it. Gives the left side a nice finished look -- sounds kinda cool -- and anything that will chase away those preignition knocks has to be good -- |
