| Author | Message | ||
     Ron_luning |
I really couldn't stand how slippery the stock footpegs are on the 1125R, so I took a drive over to see what they had at American Sportbike because I live about 7 miles away. I purchased the XB/1125 1" lowering brackets, the LSL CNC billet race legal footpegs, and the longer brake/shifter toe pegs. It was a bit pricey because of the lower brackets; the total came out to $180 plus tax. The increase in grip that my feet have is great. As you can see in the photos, my boots left some rubber on them after just one ride. Hopefully they will last a decent amount of time considering the cost of new boots. I had sufficient grip using any part of my foot whereas with the stock pegs I could only get my foot to stay in place when my toe was on the peg. The last thing I wanted to happen was to be in the middle of a corner, weighting a peg and have my foot slip off. In that regard, these pegs were well worth it. My concern with the lower mounts was that there would be a big loss in ground clearance. After riding on the road, I can't foresee ever having a problem. I don't know about the track, but when in his shop Al and I lowered his bike down very far to see how the clearance was and honestly I think you'd be on the edge of traction with a street legal tire if you touched these pegs to the ground. The problem could be aided by the LSL pegs being a bit shorter than the stock ones. Another concern was the controls being at a funny angle with the lowered pegs. I tried moving the shifter to the lower position, and it felt better leaving it in the stock setup. Even with the lower pegs it doesn't feel too high for me:  The brake lever provides a bit of adjustment by loosening the nut and then rotating the threaded shaft that goes to the back of the brake pedal. I didn't want to go too far with adjusting the brake pedal because you need to ensure there is adequate clearance between the threaded shaft and the brake pedal itself. In its current position, the pedal is a bit higher than optimum for agressive riding but it is easier to use for normal street riding. I think I'll just get used to it where it is:  The replacement pegs on the shifter and brake pedal eliminate the need to angle your foot inward to use either control. I find that they make it much easier to shift/brake. I have in the past actually stepped on the top of the brake lever arm itself instead of the peg because I had to angle my foot inward so much. They are made of a plastic material with a long bolt running through them. They are plenty strong, but a bit slippery. Overall they are pretty decent for the money ($20 each). Here is what the relationship looks like from above:   The 1" lower mounts made a nice difference in comfort. Personally, my back starts to hurt me before my knees on this bike, but if you have leg problems, or are very tall then you should consider the lower peg mounts. If you want to know if you should get the regular mounts or the lower ones, take a look at your tires. If you don't have any unscuffed region on your FRONT tire, then maybe you need the pegs to be as high as possible. If that's not the case, then you can probably do the lower mounts and be quite happy. Here's where you can get the parts: http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9184.html http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/16065.html http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/A19001.html | ||
| White79bu |
I have thought about getting the footpegs. My feet sometimes slip off of the stock ones. I was just curious if they are the same width as the stock ones? | ||
| Ron_luning |
I just measured them, and the new ones are 2 3/4" wide as measured along the entire length of the round peg. The stock ones are 3 1/16" as measured along the rubber portion. So basically a little bit lost in peg width, but they have so much more grip it is night and day. | ||
| Krassh |
Ron to bad you were not at the SCAB (Southern California Area Buellers) meeting Feb. 4th Al had a set in the raffle. I already had a set or I would have jumped on the ones at the raffle. +1 on the grip they work great plus being 6'2" it helps in the knee department having the 1" drop. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
My concern with the lower mounts was that there would be a big loss in ground clearance. After riding on the road, I can't foresee ever having a problem. I don't know about the track, but when in his shop Al and I lowered his bike down very far to see how the clearance was and honestly I think you'd be on the edge of traction with a street legal tire if you touched these pegs to the ground. The problem could be aided by the LSL pegs being a bit shorter than the stock ones. any math geniuses want to take a stab at how much more lean angle you get by shortening the peg by 5/16 of an inch? It it is close to the stock peg lean angle, then I am in big time. I would like the 1 inch drop and I too have experienced peg slippage on numerous occasions. However, I am worried about losing lean angle. Also, those scalloped ones look like it would be even better for lean angle than the round ones.... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Also, anyone know the price on the scalloped pegs? Unless i am missing something, you can only buy the upgrade in finish for the pegs, but not the pegs themselves. *Edit*--Can the scalloped pegs be $25? I just thought that was too low? But when you are dropping $100 for the base, I guess. (Message edited by fresnobuell on February 16, 2009) | ||
| Ccryder |
The Uly pegs bolt right on and offer the 1" drop, non-slip surface and, a wider (Front to back) perch for your boots. I like them since it spreads the load across more of my boot, just my $0.02 for today. Later Neil S. | ||
| Ron_luning |
Al showed me the scalloped pegs, and the knurling on them is not very deep so they are not as grippy as the round ones I have. | ||
| White79bu |
I just ordered a set of the rounded ones with the stock position. And a few other goodies. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Andy, let us know your take on the new pegs please. | ||
| White79bu |
Fresno, I sure will. I should get my order before the end of the week. And I will get them put on. I may not be able to test ride with them because we are expecting snow this weekend. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
BTW on the longer toe pegs, I have one on my brake side as it helps with finding the lever vs the clutch cover. However, i opted to keep the shifter peg stock as I like the easy access to the top and bottom of the shifter peg. The long shifter peg seemed to require more foot movement to make the transition between upshifting and downshifting (and vice versa)--like my foot had to go out and around the shifter peg to move from one side of the shifter to the other. I could be just my style and obviously this is just an opinion. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Did you have to shave the mounting brackets down to make them fit? Or is that for only the regular bracket? If so, where exactly do they have to be trimmed? | ||
| Ron_luning |
I didn't have to shave or cut anything to fit it. The right side went on without any difficulty at all. The left gave me a lot of trouble getting the pin to slide through the spring. It all went together pretty easy after I soaked the area with WD-40. | ||
| Ron_luning |
For anyone that was considering these pegs, but on the fence due to ground clearance, below you will find some photos that show what I could do with them. On the last run the extended shifter (down one notch from stock position as well) dragged on the ground. I'll keep them for street use, but if you're going on a track they are too long. I don't normally ride quite so briskly, but I figured that the photos could be useful for others. The pegs never touched.      | ||
| Ron_luning |
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| Fresnobuell |
Thanks Ron. I have been on the fence about those lower pegs. Your pics are PERFECT at showing the lean angle possible. Did your toe ever touch down? So shifter aside, would you have any hesitations about taking the lower pegs to the track? You ride more aggressive than myself, but it's nice to know that it's there in a pinch. | ||
| Ron_luning |
My right toe did touch down when going the opposite direction on those corners, but it was due to me not having my foot in the correct position rather than the pegs being too low. I would take the lower pegs to the track, but use the stock pedals instead of the extended ones. I don't normally ride as agressive as shown in the pictures. The photographer was there, so I made some higher speed passes to see if I could get a photo that showed clearance. By higher speed, I mean somewhere around 55 mph since this is pretty much a hairpin turn. I never owned motorcycle pants or a suit with knee sliders before owning the 1125R, so this was actually my first time with my knee down. In the past 11 years on the street, I've never been to a track school because I either didn't have the money or couldn't afford to wreck my 1 bike. | ||
| Rockstarblast1 |
haha i wanna learn how to do what you are doing in the pics. but i dont becuase of the same as the last 2 things u said | ||
| Krassh |
Ron, You going to join us on the SCAB (Southern California Area Buellers) ride this Saturday? | ||
| Marcodesade |
Tell me more about the ride please? I'm in Riverside. | ||
| Krassh |
Check out the post at the bottom of this page. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/37/ 40.html?1236063220 Details of the ride is there. | ||
| Ron_luning |
Wow, that's a pretty long ride for my boney butt. I might end up going; I'll just have to cut it short. | ||
| Krassh |
I am sure Al has a Buell Touring seat in stock to help with the comfort. | ||
| Parrick |
I put a set of these lowered pegs on yesterday. Now the bike feels right! This is a worthwhile mod. No more slippery pegs. Can't really bump a thread the way this forum is set up but here it is anyway...BUMP!!! | ||
| Zac4mac |
I put stock silver Uly pegs on Loretta last year. Huge improvement in comfort. A couple of weeks ago, a guy with a Versys came in looking for Uly pegs. I sold him mine, and bought the set of Black Uly pegs we had in stock. Same geometry, but the black pegs are MUCH stickier than the silver. Z | ||
| Ccryder |
Z: Is it the coating or the cleats/ holes in the pegs that make them "stickier"? So far my set have been fine wet or dry. I like the lowered aspect and the wider perch so they don't dig into my boots. Later Neil S. | ||
| Zac4mac |
It's got to be the coating - they look like the same part. Z | ||
| Al_lighton |
On the SCAB ride this weekend, Ken (Krassh) and Ron (Luning) low sided their 1125Rs an uphill corner on Montezuma Valley Grade out of Borrego Springs. No injuries of significance, though I think Ken has a bruise and scrape or two....could have been much worse, thankfully, they're fine and the bikes crashed pretty dang well, I'd say. A couple mirrors, pods, bar ends, etc. was the worst of it. And a footpeg..... Which of course is why I brought it up here. They'll tell us more about the crash in another thread if they want to. But I learned a couple things in the wreck. 1) The D&D pipe is one heckuva crash guard. Ken's bike didn't touch the footpegs, or swingarm, or slider. It's an expensive, loud crash guard, but it stood up well. But my point is that even with the lowered pegs, at least THAT pipe hits the ground before the footpegs. I'd guess most of the side mounted pipes probably are similar. 2) Which we CAN'T say about the stock pipe. Ron's stock muffler, being tucked underneath, definitely let the bike drop all the way to the footpeg, and snapped the base boss off. This is good, and exactly what is hoped for. You don't want such a strong peg that the frame bosses are the weak point. You want the peg to go first, but not TOO easily. It did. Ron, if you're reading and you have that peg, can you snap a picture of it? I cloned the LSL peg mount on our 1" drop base so that it could use their pegs. Looks like they designed the boss size properly, at least based on this single sample On another note, I have the related version of these dropped pegs on my Uly as well. I haven't used the black stock uly pegs, but I'm sure not much of a fan of the silver ones that came on my 06 and 08 Ulys. I find the round knurled ones much grippier. But besides the grip, I just prefer a round peg. Whatever angle-of-attack the boot has on the peg, it feels natural because the foot is tangent to the peg circle. It's easier to rock the foot on a round peg. With a paddle peg, some foot positions feel different than other foot positions. If you ride a bike somewhat aggressively, your foot is going to be moving around a lot on the peg. It's easier to do that on a round peg. Which is why ALL MY bikes have round pegs of various brands on them, and I imagine why most race pegs are round. IF you're going to do long distances, big flat pegs aren't bad. But with lots of foot action (upshifting, downshifting, corner weight transfers, etc), round is better. Al (Message edited by al_lighton on March 11, 2009) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
same corner, same time? Glad to hear that the bikes are the only things dinged up (for the most part.) | ||
| Ron_luning |
Al, I have the peg available at home to take a picture of; I'll post one later today. The bike is at the dealer getting an estimate done for the insurance company. Yes, it was the same corner. I was probably around 150 feet behind Ken. At some points during the ride, I must admit we were going fast. However, at this corner I know that my speed was not very high. I entered the corner (right) and saw Ken and his bike laying in the opposite lane of traffic. Within a fraction of a second, and without any warning or sliding, the front tire lost all traction. The handlebars turned to the right and the bike and I went sliding along for maybe 40 feet. I ended up in the middle of the opposite lane and the bike was near the edge, but not yet on the dirt. Based on how unbelievably fast the traction was gone, and that the 2 of us had the exact same thing happen there must have been oil or antifreeze on the road. Oh well, like Al said it could have been much worse. The damage to my bike included the footpeg and rear brake toe peg, both turn signals on the right side, the swingarm spool, the clutch cover puck, the front brake lever, throttle grip, right side handlbar end (probably the bar too), the upper fairing, the tail fairing, and both pieces of the plastic radiator pod. The radiator itself is unharmed. I only have crappy cell phone pics of the wrecked bike but I'll put them here too. Once I get the estimate on price of repairs you'll know. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Bummer guys. It's good the 11 crashes well. Even better that you both crashed well too. I hate front wash-outs - my last 2 close-up views of the road were the same. Last one cost me a pod and a clutch cover(RevB) with puck. In the parking lot of the dealership I work at... Z | ||
| Ron_luning |
Here are the damage photos. I think that the peg was fine with the bike sliding along until the rear end started to pivot so that the sliding direction had a component going from back to front of the bike itself. At that point the peg mount fractured.     |
