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Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 11:59 am: |
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Well I sent the tire to repair and the shop told me it can't be repaired due to the nail perforated the tire in an angle. They even tried to plug patch it but it would leak air. Any recommendations? the tire only has around 400 miles on it. Thanks! |
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Spectrum
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 12:02 pm: |
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Has to have a huge hole if it can't be plugged. My guess is they tried to pressurize the tire too soon after plugging it. Some times you need to give the plug and glue time to setup. |
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Kilroy
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 12:02 pm: |
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Unfortunately, hole in tire = new tire (for me, anyway). He last thing I need is a plug or patch giving way when I'm in a high speed leaner - |
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Marcodesade
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 12:27 pm: |
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I'm just a know-nothing n00b, but I'm with you, Kilroy. When I found a roofing nail the first week, I thought they were trying to screw me when they said they wouldn't plug it. My buddy pointed out "Maybe a plug will be OK. How bad do you want to find out?" I bought the damn tire, and will do the same again next time. |
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Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 01:17 pm: |
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Damm it! Does somebody know where can I find a good deal on a Diablo Corsa III? |
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Samcol
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 02:13 pm: |
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Harley shop....![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/roflol.gif) |
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4cammer
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 02:55 pm: |
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http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/28/394/6224 /ITEM/Pirelli-Diablo-Corsa-III-Rear-Tire.aspx?Site ID=CSE_GBase_394&WT.mc_ID=80003&zmam=88421133&zmas =1&zmac=2&zmap=6224 Froogle.com is your friend |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 03:08 pm: |
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Did they try and patch it from the inside? Thats suprising it wouldn't hold. Get the tire back, unless it looked really bad, I'd give you $50 for it. You can probably find somebody local that wants it. |
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Mrncgy1
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 03:58 pm: |
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Luisemilio do a google search. I don't have time to do it now but I found the tire for $150 when harley was going to charge me $260... It's worth googling |
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Spectrum
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 03:59 pm: |
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I've never seen a business that would plug a tire. Liability issue for them. I just do it myself. I've plugged many a tire on all kinds of vehicles and never had a problem with them. Including my Buells. |
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Jmr1283
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 06:42 pm: |
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plug it ur self, then do a huge burn out and video tape it and post it. then put the new one on. their not that hard to do with a screw driver and a flat bar. does take patients and some muscle. im jokin about the burn out but if i was goin to replace it anyway id throw a plug in a burn it up. ive plugged motorcycle tires before with out problems. but if i was plannin on a track day/racing i would never plug a tire unless i was trying to win and it was the only option. |
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Exnorton
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 06:54 pm: |
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If you have a $5 dollar butt, trust a $5 plug. It blows to loose a tire so soon but, (or is it butt) what can you do. Buy the tire. |
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Chadhargis
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 10:52 pm: |
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I understand the better safe than sorry line of thinking, but I can tell you that I've run plugged tires for thousands of miles without any problem. First thing you need to do is dismount the tire. Then you use this kind of plug:
It's called a "plug patch". It's a two in one thing. You insert it from the inside out. The patch at the bottom seals the hole from the inside and is held in place by adhesive (helps if you scuff the area and heat it up a bit with a hair dryer). The other end protrudes through to the outside of the tire. You trim it down to size. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY it can come out. If for some reason it doesn't hold air, you're running tubeless tires, so it won't go down at a rapid pace. You might notice that it loses a few pounds over several days. Now, all this applies only if you have a hole small enough to patch, and the hole isn't in the sidewall. |
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Justin1125r
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 11:11 pm: |
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why dont you try using an innertube if you dont want to buy a new tire. just a thought. |
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Carbonbigfoot
| Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 11:25 pm: |
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YAY! Another tire plug thread! O.K. People fall into 2 categories. 1. Those that say plugs in motorcycle tires = instant death. 2. Those that have actually used them. Here's my question: Has anybody ever had a plug fail? Anyone? R |
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Fireman4u
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 12:03 am: |
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>>Has anybody ever had a plug fail? >>Anyone? I'd rather not find out. I would just buy a new tire for piece of mind (what little of it thats left). S |
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Krassh
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 12:13 am: |
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Plug patch it and tube it, problem solved. |
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Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 12:50 am: |
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Carlos had a plug fail in his tire two or three times. The hole was ragged on the inside and when it was pressurized the plug would just blow out. It didn't kill him. Hot molten hell didn't rain from the sky. He just rapidly lost air in the tire, but didn't lose the pressure fast enough to cause any problems. I'm with Chad on this one. Why would plugs on motorcycle tires be any different than car tires. Most here wouldn't hesitate to plug a car tire. Irrational paranoia. |
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Bigdaddy
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 09:41 am: |
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Is it that time of year already? |
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Carbonbigfoot
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 10:02 am: |
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In my saddlebag, 100% of the time, is a ziplock bag with: Reamer Plug tool Plugs Tube of rubber cement Folding Pliers Small (sharp) folding knife Small "air in a can" First, I HATE getting stuck somewhere, and having to call for help. Call me stubborn. Second, I have plugged various motorcycle tires at least 5 times that I can recall. First time, I was worried. So I plugged the tire, aired it up, and let it sit for an hour. No loss of pressure. Went around the block slowly. No loss of pressure. Went for a gentle ride. No loss of pressure. Went back out, ramped it up till I was driving like a lunatic. No loss of pressure. (The repair was about 1/2 inch off center) For the grand finale, I went in the alley behind the casa, and did a great big nasty burnout, to try to make it fail. No problem. Slid it, locked up the rear, trying to roll the plug out, No Problem. Then I put about another 3000 miles on the tire before it was worn out. YMMV, and each of us is responsible for our own decisions, so do whatever your are comfortable with. Just my 98476189735981298745979157958724957298275982475928 7529782598745984 cents. (I got my Stimulus Package!!!) Rob |
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Boltrider
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 10:51 am: |
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I had the rear tire on my Firebolt plugged about 2K miles ago. The tire place did a great job (Tred Mill in the Sacto area). To each their own. |
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Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 11:35 am: |
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how had is it to remove the tire from the rim? Do you need a machine? What would you use to remove it without damaging the wheel? Thank you guys! |
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Luisemilio25r
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 11:42 am: |
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I meant how hard! oops! |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 03:49 pm: |
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The thing many of you are missing is that the problem IS NOT that his tire got a hole in it and whether or not a plug will work - the problem is that the nail "perforated the tire in an angle". If that is the case, it may have torn cords - meaning that the entire radial band can let go at speed. We're all adults here and can make our own decisions - and I've run plugs in the tread on a few different tires for THOUSANDS of miles - but I'd never want to run a tire with torn radial fibers that you could get as the result of a slicing kind of penetration. In do-it-yourself, YOU are responsible for YOUR tire repairs. That SHOP would be responsible for repairing YOUR tire. Put your "lawyer" hat on and then think about what you'd recommend for a repair. Just my preference. (Message edited by slaughter on February 07, 2009) |
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Carbonbigfoot
| Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 04:06 pm: |
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+1. I don't think you could get many (if any) shops to slap in a plug. I know I wouldn't if I were in business. Still partial to em for my own use. R |