| Author | Message | ||
     Dentfixer |
Check this one out guys! http://ridemission.com/ | ||
| F_skinner |
I love the look of the front headlight. I wish they showed more of the bike but it sounds like a blast to ride listening to the other riders talk about it. Too bad they did not have any job openings. Thanks for posting that link. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
WANT! | ||
| Hexangler |
 (I lightened this "glimps" a bit.) | ||
| Jerseyguy |
"no carbon emissions and one of the lowest environmental impacts of any vehicle on the road." Did they forget how electricity is made?? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
It's magic. It comes out of the wall, Dummy. | ||
| Brumbear |
if they put a couple wind generaters under the fairing I bet you could extend the range to 300 miles add a couple solar panels and wow | ||
| Aesquire |
Why don't electric cars have windmills on the roof? ( there IS a reason ) Solar panels though, that works, as long as you have sun. To keep your bike going at 60, that would take a double trailer covered with solar cells, and a Semi tractor to haul it. | ||
| Brumbear |
behind the grill there won't be a worry of someone getting hurt | ||
| Brumbear |
and toyota has started using solar panels to run AC on hybtyds I think it will work I'd like to try it some day | ||
| Diablobrian |
an the first generation gsxrs were criticized as being "slab sided"....sorry, but I don't like the looks, and I don't buy the hype. relocating the pollution, sorry; carbon emissions, doesn't make it disappear. I also don't buy the hype on range....just how long does it take to re-charge? and what is the range at something realistic, like 70mph? Battery technology is improving, and the efficiency of electronics is making huge leaps, however there is still that pesky problem of converting the potential energy to kinetic energy in an efficient manner. Then there is the issue of stuffing electrons back into the batteries in a timely manner. The technology just isn't ready for prime time....YET. | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
2 hour recharge on 220V 8 hours on 110V The site also says that figuring California's average cost of electricity, it would cost $1.69 to fully charge. That's what the site says anyway. I dunno.. it's cool if the specs are accurate but will be way out of my price range so it doesn't affect me. | ||
| Froggy |
Brumbear, you can't put a windmill on a car because you will burn more gas/electricity to overcome the resistance of the blades than what you will get back from the wind spinning them. Basically they turn a small car into an SUV in terms of aerodynamics, and you won't get squat generated. It would only be decently useful as something you put up after you park to run the AC or act like a trickle charger, but that won't work well unless you got a breezy day. Solar works great for this, hence its something thats been on some luxury cars for years, and after Toyota heard GM is using it on a few cars including the Volt they decided to use it too. | ||
| Dummkauf |
My money's still on hydrogen engines(see the previous post about the hydrogen powered Buell). All you need is electricity and water to make hydrogen. So you get yourself one of them fancy solar panels, or 2 or 3, find a water source, and you've got a virtually unlimited supply of hydrogen, which supposedly has way more energy than standard unleaded gasoline or diesel, and the only emissions are water. | ||
| Nillaice |
you can move the carbon pollutants or just make nuke waste instead. at least that stuff can be buried, and beta minus decay instead of having to breathe it... but regardless there is no way to acheive carnot efficiency. there will always be friction losses and such. if an electric bike is more efficient than a conventional internal combustion engine, and gas gets really expensive, like REALLY pricey, we'll all be riding these. i think it looks kewl, and i'd love to have all that torque on demand all the time | ||
| Brumbear |
I hear you but I think if you took a small alt. turned it sideways with air funneled through the a fairing with a cupped mill blades if you will then set a circut on a switch to open only when going over say 30MPH a sort of interactive valve you would generate more than enough juice for a flyback sort of circut not for perpetual motion but batterey extended run time you could easily increase your range bye 20-40% on highways and the solar could power a seprate lighting circut and power supply to further reduce draw on the drive system. I believe the problem at this point is more cost effectiveness than not being able to do it. of course the Alt. would have to have expensive parts to reduce drag when on like ceramic or teflon bearings and larger magnets I just think it can easily be done but not cheeply | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Look, I eat meat, I drink alcohol, I run a garage full of bikes that need fossil fuel, I shoot guns, reload my own, and brew the home booze; keep your namby pampy 'green' ideologies away from me and my stuff. Besides if enough ya reduce your carbon footprint, I fully intend on increasing mine in proportion | ||
| Nillaice |
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE generator blade windage losses. bearing friction. increased drag co-efeciency. the generator's power factor. and who can forget about those nasty 'I-squared-R' losses you can't cut one end off the blanket and sew it on the other end to make it longer. | ||
| Brumbear |
I sure would like to try cause its there ya know and I don't believe the world is flat. And for the love of Pete I aint thinking of getting rid of my IC motors I still get something akin to wood when I hear a big ol V8 witt all kinds of soot breathing smoke chugging noise making eardrum breakin farts bangs clanks and a hearty hi ho silver. Not to mention electric don't come in Vtwin | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
I love my V-Twin but I'd buy one of those in a heartbeat. I'd even set fire to a big pile of tires and punch a hippy in the face, so you guys won't think I'm a pinko green-peace homo liberal. Screw politics and "eco-friendly" that thing is cool. | ||
| Seanp |
Is that a garden trellis in the middle there?  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
that is pretty cool if it lives up to all the hype. What was up with the videos being a bunch of guys flapping their gums to whole time. How about some vid of the bikes launching, flying by at 150 MPH or an onboard camera thru some twisty canyons? Any weight guesses or retail price? | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
Although that thing screams "Vaporwear" I wish them luck. Me I want a lightweight bike powered by pneumatics. If any of you have been following that French "Air Car" you have probably seen that relatively small compressed air tank. Something like that on a super moto for city work  rool | ||
| Hexangler |
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| Cityxslicker |
that would work great here www.derringercycles.com | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Holy Shiyt. $68,995 each for a limited production of 50 bikes. After that there will be a cheaper production run for the masses. Probably really cheap like $50,000. THIS is why the electric thing is not working as much as anything. (Message edited by fresnobuell on February 06, 2009) | ||
| Bombardier |
Seeing as they are selling carbon credits to companies( you know where they still make the same amount of polluting stuff but now have a forest that supposedly offsets it) how about those who want a noisy bike team up with a Prius owner and then split the decibel rating so you are then legal to ride - Noise Credits!!!! How innovative is that?!??! All noise pollution taken care of and fully paid for. | ||
| Kilroy |
Now you're on to something!! | ||
| Scotty_j |
If you want to offset the environmental impact of your Buell, just paypal a day's wages to me and I'll call in sick to work, thereby taking a vehicle off the road and saving the planet. Carbon credits, indeed. Suckers. | ||
| Spiderman |
I am thinkin about getting one of these as a commuter to work. Gets 40 miles to the charge goes up to 50 mph. http://www.enertiabike.com/ BUT I am waiting to hear from the company about things like, Parts= Are the sprokets, brake pads and other tip over stuff universal or special order Charge= Can the bike sit for 8 hours while I am at work or 1-2 hours while I am at the gym and not degrade the charge too much Batteries= Whats the life and replacement cost... | ||
| Brumbear |
12K i don't need it that bad but its cool | ||
| Hootowl |
A few solar panels on a car or bike will not generate enough current to separate, in real time, enough hydrogen to power an internal combustion engine. If you're generating electricity on the vehicle, why would you want to waste energy converting it to hydrogen so you could burn it in an inefficient internal combustion engine? Why not just use it directly in a nice efficient electric motor? Not that solar panels are efficient enough for this in the first place, outside of university engineering projects which are nothing more than a couple of bicycle frames welded together and covered in solar panels...not exactly a real vehicle. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Yup. Assuming it is bright daylight, and you had a really good solar cell technology, you need about 50 square feet of solar cells to get enough power to keep up with a stock XB9. |
