| Author | Message | ||
     Hootowl |
My lowest time was 27.12, but that was WITHOUT hitting any cones. The guy who was in the 25's knocked over at least three cones every lap. Working the track prevented me from riding as much as I wanted to, and the 9S had already been wrecked before I got a chance to dance. I wasn't about to push my X1 any harder than I already had. I know I would have dumped it. Watching that guy dump the 9S was pretty sad. He got it leaned all the way over, reached over the bars and grabbed a handful of brake. What was he thinking? Oh well. I feel bad for Republic. They paid for the event, let people ride their bikes, and one gets damn near totaled. Parts guy said the frame was around $1400, plus all the other stuff. Wonder how many bikes they have to sell to cover the cost? | ||
| Hootowl |
Court, The INTEGRITY of the frame was most likely not compromised. It was a low speed dump. It just has a little dent in it. But it is still a bent frame, and will have to be replaced to the tune of 1400 bucks. And that may be dealer cost, I'm not sure. Bob's point was that a bike shouldn't have so much damage in terms of $$$ from such a low speed crash. I estimate his speed at 10-15 mph. We discussed the knee puck idea right after the crash. Seemed like a good way to go. How is the velcro attached? Contact adhesive? JB weld? Bubble gum? | ||
| Buelliedan |
I wasn't about to "push" on that course. Way too tight and just a slow crash on my X1 would probably result in at least $1000 worth of carbon fiber damage. Plus how could I have gotten home with a broken bike!! I can just see Cil and I trying to ride 2 up on her Blast all the way back to SA!!!!  | ||
| X1glider |
My 40mph crash at the track didn't touch the frame of my x1. As Jeff pointed out, that was my point. Fuel tank integrity was there but the frame was dented and scraped up. $1400 plus 7 hours labor to replace it. Then the other bits and pieces. I'm convinced the knee slider on the frame wouldn't help. It would keep the scrapes off, but the puck would just transfer the impact and dent the frame anyway. | ||
| X1glider |
Dan, you could've gotten home ok an a brand new XB9R! Of course you riding bitch would be cheaper...and priceless if I got a pic of it to share here! Yep, Jeff didn't take out the cones like I did. That 9R handles sooooo differently. Even took out cones with the Blast. The footpegs were dragging the cones with me. Needs some rearsets! | ||
| Buelliedan |
Actually a knee puck would absorb most of the impact and should do a very good job of protecting the frame as long as you can keep the puck attached to the frame. I'd be worried that in a slide it would come off but maybe by that time the worst part would be over with. | ||
| Road_Thing |
Char: I think X1G's injury occurred when all the air went out of his partner.  Court: The dog and I both have thick skins.  Jeff: You were definitely flying, I couldn't get below 30 (of course, I have reached that age when one heals less rapidly and tries to avoid putting oneself in the healing mode). Bob: That's quick for a one-armed jackalope rider. Develop that film! r-t | ||
| Archer |
I'm going to be posting pics after I get them developed today and scan 'em. Thanks Everyone for ALL your help! We could not have done it without you!  big round of applause for X1glider <------(trooper! came out with messed up arm and all) Hootowl.....great job and roadrunnr! Got compliments from some of the dealer staff on how professional everyone was. This was a great success and we WILL be doing this again. Going to be getting a rode together after the thanksgiving holiday. I need suggestions for a destination. Thanks again Ross Republic H-D/Buell | ||
| Hootowl |
Ross. My $#@^% speedo sensor went out AGAIN this morning. I'm going to try to get Stubbs to replace it for free since they put it in there two months ago, but when they tell me to go stuff myself...any chance you guys have this in stock? Let me know OK? I'll be in Stafford tomorrow at one of our sites. I'll swing by during lunch. Maybe we can go get a bite? | ||
| Reepicheep |
Hoot... See the knowledge vault for a simple fix for your next one. I can't promise it will keep it from happening again, but it solved my problem and a couple other peoples as well. Hopefully you were not using the filter already... otherwise, it'll be back to the drawing board. How come this is not happening to the sportster guys? An Anon (Anon-r I think) posted that it was related to individuals being too aggressive with cable ties. I don't doubt that is A cause, Anon-r is obviously well informed, but at least two of us here disected our sensors and it was clear to us that it was NOT the failure mode we had, so something else is happening as well. If you are not comfortable with a soldering iron, ping me offline and I will set you up. Bill | ||
| Hootowl |
Bill, I will be using the filter you describe. I did avionics in the Navy, so I can sling solder with the best of them. My first one went out long before you originally posted your filter idea, and it lasted until two months ago when the sensor actually started blowing my main fuse. I was stranded, had to go to a dealer, and they replaced it. I never went back and put in the filter. Serves me right I guess, I knew it was a problem, and I blew it off. I couldn't find the schematic you posted earlier. Can you show me where it is, or email it to me? Jeff | ||
| Archer |
I'm off tomorrow but I will see what I have in stock. I'll be in the shop for about 2 hours around 11 or so. I'll let you know what I find out. Sorry to hear about that by the way. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Speedo Sensor Filter It was designed to be as non-invasive, as simple, and as durable as possible while using standard off the shelf radio shack parts. That being said, the fact that you were blowing fuses makes me think that you may have indeed seen the annon mentioned failure scenario. For $50, you might want to look for shorts / broken wires on the leads to the sensor. The failure mode that most of us see is not a short, and is not blown fuses. | ||
| Hootowl |
Only one was shorted. All my other failures have been opens. The wires are fine. It was the sensor in each case. I'm going to fuse the power to the new sensor though. That way, if I do see another short there, at least the bike won't die. Not sure what size of fuse to use though. It'll have to be less than the current rating of the diode it'll be in series with, or I'll blow the diode instead of the fuse. I can't imagine that a hall effect sensor requires all that much current to operate. Guess I'll hook up an ammeter and see what it's drawing and base the rating of the diode and fuse on that. Thanks for looking up that schematic for me Bill. Ross...I'll be at Republic around noon. | ||
| Reepicheep |
You can let the diode be the fuse, which is the way the schematic I linked above would work... they are about as cheap. That would blow at 1 amp, which would be a power consumption (V times I) of less then a watt (about .6 watts to be exact). Never even thought about the fact that this also functions as a simple fuse... good observation Hoot! Bill | ||
| Hootowl |
Yeah, me Ohm and Kirchhoff know each other real well. | ||
| Blake |
X1G, I'm not sure a cosmetically damaged XB9 frame automatically requires replacement. The outer highly curved portion of the frame most exposed to damage in a tip over has little load carrying capability. If the inboard wall of the frame is still true, the small dent in the outboard wall could simply be repaired with filler. The only negative being slightly reduced fuel capacity. | ||
| Hootowl |
Blake, If it was my money, I'd give the body filler a try, but this particular bike belongs to a dealer, and I'm sure they hope to sell it some day. The sad part was that they had just gotten it back on the road. One of their guys was out riding it and got rear ended at a light. By the way, even though I didn't have a chance to ride it, I'm completely in lust with that thing. | ||
| Archer |
It's a great bike. It was really heartbreaking to see that thing go down three times. That thing has been cursed from the get go. Parts are estimated at around $2500 our cost not mentioning labor. The crash also scratched up the swingarm, not too bad but enough where we can't sell it that way. I'm thinking of buying that from the dealership and having it powder coated black! Anyways the bike will be fine. We sill have a black one sitting on the floor. Photos are being scanned and I will be posting all of them over the weekend. Everyone have a great Thanksgiving. Ross Republic H-D/Buell | ||
| X1glider |
Ditto, Ross. It requires replacement so they can sell it. Perhaps, Blake this is your opportunity to buy an XB for the track! Lessee, 10k-3500=$6500 for a track bike! It has the race kit on it too. The only thing that NEEDS replacing is the shifter toe peg. All else is mechanically AOK. I'll be picking up my pics tonight too. Then I'll scan them on Monday sometime. |
