| Author | Message | ||
     Redbuelljunkie |
You don't have it bad at all- read this and count your blessings... http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=3 5357 | ||
| Rubberdown |
Wow, you wad the frame in a race wreck and they'll cover it. | ||
| Buellborn |
Yay Buell, No Frame recall! | ||
| Court |
It the whole recall thing . . . . Buell ain't even near being in the lead. It's a shame when it happens to anybody. | ||
| Jmr1283 |
what i like in that artical is that they are giving u a 5yr warranty on it. no thats good. im really starting to worry about when my 2 yrs of warranty are up. but back to the subject its pretty scary that u could be riding along having fun and end up riding a unacycle | ||
| Buellborn |
The reason I'm not fond of pointing fingers at others for comfort, I'm not sure I want any type of failure/crash even if its a Clutch lock up at high speed in 6h gear, or a engine stumble at low rpm in a tight twisty corner while I'm in full lean. Court said it best. "It's a shame when it happens to anybody." | ||
| Pariah |
... it was a fifth gear recall, and engine stumble could be avoided at full lean with proper gear selection. But thanks for airing out all of our dirty laundry (at every opportunity)...  | ||
| Buellborn |
O' my bad, this thread was to talk smack about others so we feel better? You think those two items compile a list of "all"? Try the middle ground where keeping it real means people in glass houses, yada yada. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
People who live in glass houses, shouldn't go naked...  Rob | ||
| Dentguy |
Unless they are hot chicks. | ||
| Ponti1 |
People who live in glass houses...Should keep a substantial amount of Windex on hand. Oh yea, +1 to the hot chicks! | ||
| Pariah |
Buellborn, no one's smack-talkin' but you. The first poster was trying to make the point that Buells aren't the only bikes with recalls (mind you, most of Buell's notices haven't been mandatory). He wasn't putting down Suzuki, just giving all of us Buell owners some perspective. You then post this outwardly innocent post, with the undercurrent of a deep-seated dislike of all things Buell. It's your typical style. It's like your ex works at Buell, or maybe you're an ex-Buell employee with a chip on your shoulder. And you don't even own an 1125R/CR, do you?! For a non-owner, you sure post here a lot. What do you want? (Message edited by Pariah on January 17, 2009) | ||
| Buelltech6 |
actually i find this topic very funny because im the only tech at my dealer that is into buells and when people started seeing all of the work orders coming in for recalls and safety campaigns they officially named my 1125r drag bike "total recall" and i will tell you it does not bother me one bit | ||
| Oddball |
Here's a glass house.    | ||
| Doerman |
Hmmm, I don't get it  . Living with my 1125R for 13 months now and 15K on the odo, I've had the recalls done and surprisingly, I don't feel violated as a result. On the contrary, I feel I have been taken care of. Every recall, Tech Bulletin or whatever it has been was resolved while I waited. It gave me an opportunity to sit around a shoot the breeze with the good folks at the dealership and other customers. Complaining about the recalls is as if the passengers on USAir 1529 were to complain about getting their clothes wet during the rescue. We're being well cared for by BMC. | ||
| Zac4mac |
+Plus Asbjorn. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
engine stumble at low rpm in a tight twisty corner while I'm in full lean. I don't recall one OWNER reporting this situation ever, maybe the solenoid cutting out in a turn gave some pucker moments (I had a couple personally.) You seem to be getting your facts confused rather often, but what does that matter when your mission is to badmouth our bike at every chance? What IS your problem? | ||
| Buellborn |
Pariah Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 07:43 pm: ....... What do you want? I want to own one! I have wanted Buell to build such a bike for years. I just want the issues adressed openly and honestly so the bike has a level of quality that allows myself and many many more to proudly do what we have done in the past, and thats buy a new Buell. I also may over compensate for the owners that get shot down as trolls when they try to talk about an issue they are having. | ||
| Buellborn |
I guess I can leave and buy another bike and leave your reality distortion field in place. You may consider shooting the why the message originated vs the messenger. I guess American pride also makes me what to see the publics reviews turn for the better/ Every improvement that occurs I think back on someone who was chased away for reporting it yet all benefit when it is addressed. I want kind glowing words on the street, not just here. Buelltech6 Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 07:56 pm: actually i find this topic very funny because im the only tech at my dealer that is into buells and when people started seeing all of the work orders coming in for recalls and safety campaigns they officially named my 1125r drag bike "total recall" ..... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
owners that get shot down as trolls when they try to talk about an issue they are having. Nah. Owners get the benefit of the doubt as they stepped up with $12 large. Trolls AREN'T owners who feel like they need to chirp from the sideline at every opportunity--without any experience in the matter. Sound familiar? | ||
| Buellborn |
Boy you are disconnected. I have seen you admit to odd behaviors in threads and wipe it aside saying, dos't bother me. I guess you have time to go to the dealer all the time, are do you work at one and are pulling a Colin Powell? Your whitewashing in particular looks silly as if I'm at one extreme looking for answers and quality, your at the other just accepting whatever to impress someone?? If you owned a company it would fail as you fell short of meeting customer expectations. Are you a service writer? | ||
| Pariah |
Buellborn, I must say that I think that you are the one with the distorted view of reality. If you actually owned this bike and rode it, you'd discover that its positives FAR outweigh any negatives. I'm still on the ORIGINAL ECM programming, and my bike runs smoothly and is a sheer blast to ride. I consider Buell's fixes to be of a relatively minor nature... it's called PERSPECTIVE informed by actual ownership. Are there people with more serious problems with their bikes? Sure, but they are in the minority, and Buell is doing a good job of addressing concerns and helping these people out, at least in North America. Your constant poking and prodding does nothing to elevate the status of this bike... in fact, your posts are just increasing the frequency with which Internet search engines will produce hits regarding 1125R/CR problems, and, therefore, lower the public perception of the this bike! No wonder some of us think you are a troll... I come to this forum as an owner (and, BTW, I'm not a "proud American" as I'm actually Canadian), looking to learn more about this bike, and hear what the aftermarket has to offer. I'm not a Buell worshipper who is blind to problems. Just buy the bike already, and you'll understand what I'm talking about. | ||
| Slypiranna |
IMO, Buellborn HAS some valid points. Did anyone consider that he is NOT badmouthing Buell, he IS trying to be warmed up to BUYING one? I for one, will NOT be completely content until ALL negatives are resolved. Living with them, as many seem to be happy with, is NOT an option here. Working together in the past has helped many issues...so why not continue that in a positive manner. | ||
| Pariah |
IMO, Buellborn HAS some valid points. Sly, based on what? How can someone comment on the bike without having test ridden it extensively or having owned it? Based on other people's experiences? I don't need him for that, as I'm quite capable of reading. There is nothing positive about his sarcasm and innuendo. I find it irritating, and I'm letting him know. If he has something negative about the bike to bring up, I'd prefer if he did it directly. | ||
| Court |
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| Steeleagle |
+1 Pariah His valid points rarely offer constructive input to resolving the particular matter at hand. They ARE successful in constantly annoying at least one 1125R owner who has thankfully had no issues with his (my) bike. This is a Buell owner site and posters are looking for help or providing useful info. Constant editorials (typically negative) on factory management and engineering offer no value to an owner with an unfortunate problem that is seeking to resolve a particular mechanical or electrical issue. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
EVERY first year model of EVERY manufacturer has first year issues. What isn't in question with the recalls is whether or not Buell is taking them seriously and working diligently to create solutions. How many BMW owners have called about issues that are known and repetitive and have the manufacturer deny that anything is wrong? How long did it take for Suzuki to deal with clutch basket problems? I am not an owner in the 1125 line. Yet! Buell pushes the envelope. This means that they are utilizing new technologies and new techniques. Unfortunately it also means that if we want a new design when WE want it, we end up doing some of the beta testing. For some people, recalls are seen as a company failure. For me, I see them as a company recognizing that there is an issue and making a good faith effort to correct the problem. Unless the problem is seen as a safety issue by the the transportation administration, the manufacturer is under no requirement to do anything. They could just say "tough luck, buy next years models for corrections to the problems". | ||
| Dentguy |
I'm shocked. Another thread that took a wrong turn. A few of you guys should get together and have a beer or 10. I don't think it is a mystery who you are.  I think this makes me a Troll since I don't own an 1125R. I'm OK with that, but do I get a nametag to wear? What about Ft_bstrd & Court? Does this mean all the people who posted before they owned were Trolls, but were taken off the list as part of their purchase. Just poking a little fun Fresnobuell. | ||
| Dbird29 |
See also: Bloviate | ||
| Ski25r |
You don't have it bad at all- read this and count your blessings... thanks for the post and yes, things could always be worse! | ||
| Dirty_john |
well as a Brit in the UK I am proud to own both a Firebolt and an 1125R. As far as I am concerned Erik Buell has to be applauded for what he has achieved over the years and I wouldn't trade either bike in for any reason. Having ridden bikes for 33 yrs and have built my own bikes from mere components at times in the past I feel the Buell range have their minor faults but that is part of the ownership overall, the BMC is doing their best to sort out all the issues as they arise - at least I still grin when I get off these bikes after riding in the freezing cold UK weather - cant say that about jap bikes I have ridden. |
