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Clarkjw
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will do it. I will order the 2009 injectors today and report back. I'm in san diego and if my dealer won't do it, I'll order the service manual and do it myself. Anyone interested in helping in the SD area, PM me. If this isn't sorted by Aug 30, 2009 @ IMS, I'm crashing my bike into the Buell exhibit.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm planning on installing the 09 injectors once I get the bike back from the dealer.

I really don't like the sound of fuel pooling on the valves due to the 08 injectors. I also get lots of carbon buildup on the intake valves and wonder if the 09 injectors may reduce that also.
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Luisemilio25r
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When i did the denoid, I notice some carbon buildup on the intake valves. The bike only had around 2000 miles and I thought it was very strange. I took a picture of them. When I get home I'll post it.
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Clarkjw
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Luise, post the carbon buildup pic please.

Just thought I'd share

Hey Jason

I talked to the service department (I recently was moved over to run the Parts Department), and they said it would be no problem. I don't know if re-flashing it would take care of the new injectors, as the VIN would still reflect an 08 model bike with original injectors & headers. Your best bet would be to dyno tune the bike, which we can do for you as well. Give Tim or Anthony a call at the Service Desk, 732-381-2400, ext 33 and they can set everything up for ya.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I might have the 09 injectors today, I'll keep you guys posted on what I find.
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Luisemilio25r
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK this is my attempt to post a picture image\
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Luisemilio25r
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

attach{carbon}
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Luisemilio25r
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

aaaaarggg!
last try


carbon
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Luisemilio25r
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

never mind. file is to large and I can't shrink it.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Luise - e-mail me the pix, I'll post em.

zac4mac at mac dot com.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's Luise's shot.




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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did a little PhotoShop enhancement...




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Luisemilio25r
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow Zack you are good!
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Chevycummins
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





This is the nozzle view of the 09 injector.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




These are a few spray types of targeted injectors.
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Xb9
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like the split stream, with a total of 4 nozzles. Interesting.
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Jmr1283
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

seems to make sense being 4 vavle head. chevy could u post ur old injectors too.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I should have the bike back tonight and will pull the original injectors and post a picture.
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Chevycummins
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)









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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so a definite difference waiting and watching to see what you think
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Chevycummins
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 07:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bike still runs so I guess it was not a complete waste of money. Its so cold here that I can't really ride it at this time. I'm waiting for some of the ice on the road to clear and am trying to find out if there is different flow rates of the injectors and how much if there is.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fair nuff dont wantcha gettin all killed for us
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much did the new injectors run you Chevy? Were they a plug and play?
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Chevycummins
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The injectors were a direct replacement, and were very easy to change. The bad part was the $127 each! I would not recommend the swap until I can see how it effects the way it runs. Buell says that the 09 map is needed as well. I just don't know yet if they claim that to keep it emissions compliant. I'm still trying to find flow rates on the two. It seems a little richer but its hard to tell without riding it.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it is running a little richer, it will be interesting to see if the stock ecu will dial it back.

Thanks for keeping us informed!

R
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Clarkjw
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



(Message edited by clarkjw on January 28, 2009)
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Bcrawf68
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow Chevy, You rock! what is/are the part numbers for the '09 injectors? Also, do you think any of our sponsors sell them for a discount?
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Chevycummins
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try to post the part # later tonight if nobody beats me to it. Again Lets wait and see how they work on my bike before you guys possibly waste your money too. The bad thing is I'm in Michigan and it may be a while before I will be able to ride the bike
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Chevycummins
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

09 injector part # P0026.2AM
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Rdmwc
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow Zac and Chevy, i took pictures of mine while i have it dismantled trying to figure out how to fix it. i peaked down the throttle bodies and wasnt happy... i had alot of buildup for only 6k miles! but compared to your guys' mines spotless! lol mine just has a black gewy looking ring around the edges of the valves.
Royce
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

saw my valves during valve adjustment and they were really clean other than a slight ring around the outside. tech said it was a good thing that they all looked identical. Maybe some techron can clean em up?

PS--the valves were within .001 Don't be surprised if the valve check interval is lengthened. I guess the V-Rod had that happen.
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Bigschwerm
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fresno try using some seafoam to clean the valves up
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Chevycummins
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another fuel cleaner that works good is Chevron with techron. I recommend it on those GM 3.1L engines that the injectors become slightly plugged and cause a miss. I was told by a GM engineer that its really close to their upper engine cleaner that the dealers use in the pressurized fuel injection cleaning.
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