| Author | Message | ||
     Buellatp |
Pads or caliper? Any idea's? | ||
| Swordsman |
More front brake?  Seriously, do you need to slide the rear for some reason? ~SM | ||
| Andymnelson |
This topic comes up regularly, usually by an older rider (no offense intended) who rides a bit slower and like to stop with the rear brake. Try the search feature up top, there have been some good discussions around it. As far as I'm concerned, my rear brake is good enough- takes a bit more force than my sport bikes have required, but then again it doesn't lock up all the time like my sport bike rears did.  | ||
| Jaimec |
OLDER RIDER? Sheesh, he's younger than me! | ||
| Andymnelson |
Haha :-p I really didn't mean anything by it (I didn't even look at his age!), I was just saying... | ||
| Glitch |
http://www.darkhorsemoto.com/html/rbrb_0.html | ||
| Andymnelson |
Oooo Glitch, I was just drooling on that this morning! It requires a Brembo caliper, no? Would said caliper brake "better" than a stock one? (I say "better" because I like mine how it is- I think it's proportioned properly) | ||
| Stevenc150 |
Yeah, it uses a Ducati 2 piston brake caliper, so braking would def. be better. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/272255.html#POST867678 | ||
| Typeone |
braking performance went down from stock for me once i did the hidden Brembo mod. might be the pads but it def doesnt brake 'better' than the stock setup. sure looks cool as hell. YMMV btw, i use both brakes  | ||
| Point_doc |
True, there is zero improvement until you replace the rear master cylinder with a better one. This is a pic of a Brembo Rear Master Cylinder installed on my bike.  http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/368243.html?1213253654 (Message edited by point_doc on December 03, 2008) | ||
| Andymnelson |
So if it's about performance (and not the bracket, which would be in the cosmetic category for me), would just the Brembo master improve? | ||
| Point_doc |
I strongly suspect that YES is the answer to your question. I did the caliper mod first and was disappointed with the performance and satisfied with the looks. I also replaced my front master cylinder with a 16mm brembo and again there is a marked improvement. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/410119.html?1225777458 (Message edited by point_doc on December 03, 2008) | ||
| Andymnelson |
Cool. So there ya go, Buellatp. You can go get a master cylinder, and I'll go buy the bracket and caliper :-p | ||
| Skully |
There is more than one Brembo caliper that will fit our bracket. One of them has smaller pads than the other(s). Pad size and compound, and air in the line will all affect braking performance. The performance on my bike is at least as good as OEM and is easier to modulate (no wooden feeling in the pedal). We've sold a lot of these and folks seem to be very happy with the results. Keith DarkHorseMoto, LLC Protecting and Propelling Buell Motorcycles http://www.darkhorsemoto.com | ||
| Point_doc |
I would agree with Keith, that the performance was equal to OEM. No performance improvements, just an improvement on appearance. One out of two, I was half way there. For me, the reason for the mod was two-fold; to improve the performance and also for improving the appearance of the bike. I replaced the only other part to Brembo and my rear brake was now performing the way I wanted it too. | ||
| Buellatp |
Thanks guys. I did upgrade from a semi-sport bike that required very little effort on the brake peddle. With 40 years of riding experience, 20 of those in motocross, I am still learning to use my front brake to it's full potential. And yes I am older than some, but not to old!!! lol | ||
| Typeone |
to add more of my experience.. . ive talked to Al at American Sport Bike about this some, I have the smaller of the two calipers that will fit the Dark Horse Moto bracket. i'm hoping to try out some other compound pads but i definitely don't have the same performance as stock, bleeding and break-in were done correctly. still MUCH less braking than stock. its not awful, i'm still running this setup and like it, but i would prefer more back brake available when needed. yes, wheel stopping grip, i'm comfortable dragging (converted dirt biker) Keith, do you recommend any specific pads for the smaller of the two calipers? i forget my exact p/n but I think Al said i'm sorta stuck with no other options except what i'm running now pad-wise. also to note, i purchased my Dark Horse Moto setup basically new but second-hand. | ||
| Skully |
Hey Clinton - Al can tell you a lot more about what compounds are available for the various Brembo calipers. You might consider selling the caliper you have and purchasing the one with the larger pads. There another advantage to this modification besides the clean look: you save a full pound of unsprung mass. Keith | ||
| Typeone |
Thanks, Keith. I'll try another set of pads next season. If I don't get back the stock performance I'll look into the other caliper (or the Brembo MC but I think its my pads) Appreciate the input! |
