Regular opening hours should happen. Though that won't stop lines forming hours early due to limited quantities and hours available for purchase in the typical black friday schemes. It looks like some stores are starting 2 day events. Even that isn't enough I feel. Just cut the crap. Offer the deals for a normal week's length like its usually done and with sufficient quantities. Or at least not knife fight at the checkout quantities.
Xmas season wasn't too good for retailers last year and i think this year could likely be worse. I have no plans at the moment to do any xmas shopping. Won't give or receive anything.
"What has society at large become?" you ask. "Society just elected a guy named "Hussein" as President, although nobody was allowed to bring up his name and most of the "idiots" who voted for his unpatriotic arse* didn't even know it. D'oh. That's what society has become. A nation of idiots.
"What has society at large become?" you ask. "Society just elected a guy named "Hussein" as President, although nobody was allowed to bring up his name and most of the "idiots" who voted for his unpatriotic arse* didn't even know it. D'oh. That's what society has become. A nation of idiots.
Who's that from? Someone the still bows to their Queen? Someone from a Country that wants to take people that make over $200,000 and tax them 61%? Why oh why do idiots have to interject a non political thread with their sore ass loser comments? This Wal-Mart crap has happened in the past when Bush was in office but I would never consider blaming him. What a totally stupid comment. Maybe people wouldn't act like that if the economy didn't suck so bad and people weren't losing their jobs left and right. But I know, that's Obama's fault too. Grow up already.
Great Britain has enough problems of their own. Their economy is in as bad a shape as ours and their government is in even worse shape. They are practically bankrupt and they are committing mass suicide with their immigration policy.
This is even worse. Shop on line for safety. (CBS/AP) Two people are dead in a Black Friday shooting at a crowded Toys "R" Us in Palm Desert, Calif.
City Councilman Jim Ferguson says police have told him that the victims were two men with handguns who shot each other.
The councilman says his question is: who takes a loaded gun into a toy store. And his answer is: "I doubt it was the casual holiday shopper." Authorities are still investigating but indicate the shooting may have been gang related.
One woman says she was in the store looking at coloring books with her two young boys when there was a commotion in the next aisle. She thought it was a scramble for a sale, then heard gunshots. She says her four-year-old grabbed her leg and said he didn't want to die.
The violence erupted on the traditional post-Thanksgiving start of the holiday shopping surge, but accounts of what occurred inside the store were fragmentary or second hand and it was not clear whether it involved any shopping frenzy.
The Palm Desert Police Department received calls of shots fired around 11:35 a.m., Riverside County sheriff's Sgt. Dennis Gutierrez said. He said officers were still investigating what prompted the gunshots.
Immediately after the shooting, about 20 people rushed into the World Gym across the street from Toys "R" Us, the gym's assistant manager Glenn Splain told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.
"They were crying, tearing and shaking," Splain said, adding that one woman came in cradling a baby.
"Some people got into a fight," said Splain, who spoke with some of the customers. "One of the guys here thought it was over a toy, but it got louder and louder and then there were gunshots."
Sarah Pacia of Cathedral City told The Desert Sun newspaper she was in the store with her two boys, ages 4 and 6, looking at coloring books when she heard a commotion in the next aisle. She thought it was people rushing to get a sale item. Then she heard three or four shots.
She said she froze, and store employees calmly escorted her out of the store.
"This is Toys "R" Us. There are kids shopping in there," Pacia said. Her son Jayden, 4, was clinging to her leg. He told her he didn't want to die, she said.
Toys "R" Us officials did not immediately return calls seeking comment.
Palm Desert is about 120 miles east of Los Angeles.
I had my own Wal-Mart story today . . . anybody else having trouble buying ammo?
Not here in rural Warren County Ohio...
Just a general observation... if you ever organize a skeet shoot for your church in rural Warren county, make sure you tell people that shotguns will be provided and that they should not bring their own.
Otherwise, you will have 50 people show up for the event, with about 120 guns between them
I live in the only city in America where guns are effectively illegal and buying a box of ammo is equated with plastering a "I am a terrorist" sign on your chest.
Having driven to Kansas, one of the states where the criteria for concealed carry is pretty much not be currently incarcerated and pay $300, I figured that I'd better carpe the diem.
I go to Dick's Sporting goods and load up on 12 Ga. "BB" Magnums at a price of something like $31.99 for a box of 6 and was thrilled to find out that there is a $15.00 per box rebate. The funny part was the guy asking me "there's really three different levels, winging 'em, stopping 'em and cuttin' 'em in half". I went with the "you violated my daughter cut-em in half option".
Next I notice the sign "All ammo buy one get the next half off" so I loaded up on bricks of .22LR Yellow Jackets.
I ask the guy for a case of .25 Auto and .357 Mag 158Gr JHP and he tells me "we gone none". "No kidding?", I ask followed by "you don't sell them anymore?" being from NYC and thinking that the loads I am looking for are not exactly "sporting" loads. His answer surprised me . . "he;; yeah, we carry them but they are sold out by noon everyday". Ya want them you gotta get here early.
So across the street to Wally World I go where I find the LAST box of .357 and .25's in stock. I buy them and ask where I can get more. The guy reminds me of one of my favorite old gun shops. It's but minutes away, 5 miles West of town on a dirt road.
I draw a bit of attention as I pull in the parking lot full of pickups with gun racks and dogs in the back in a spiffy Mercedes convertible with New York tags. But my lingering southern drawl quickly cut the ice. I was pleased to see each and every person in the shop with some high grade hardware and two clips on their belts. In less than a minute an 80+ year old guy says "hey, aren't you Louis Canfield's grandson?" My Grandfather, who died 5 years before I was born, was also an electrical contractor and, beyond work, his life was the Boy Scouts and hunting. Old folks tend to know him in the area.
We spoke for a minute and I was thrilled to see fully stocked shelves and cases loaded with everything from Sigs to Kimbers.
I figured, here in the heartland I'd go for broke and test the guy "got any rotary mags for a 10/22 Ruger?". Without hesitation he pulled a case of them from under the counter.
He was taking a commanding lead to I tossed him an impossible request "hey, I've got one of the last steel frame Challengers. . . I've been seeing the clips go for a fortune on collector sites, know where I can get one?. He pointed toward a box that said "Browning" and started his story about being a gunsmith for Browning in Bridgeport, CT before retiring and moving back to Kansas, as he addled toward the box and pulled out a plastic package with two brand spanking new OEM Browning 10 shot magazines.
By now I was in touch with how darn much I missed Kansas and how hopelessly trampled our rights as citizens have become.
The ass end of the Mercedes is now sitting 4 lower, all the receipts are there, all the purchases were perfectly, as is the transport legal. I guess the only way for me to become a criminal would be to move my guns from storage in Kansas to NYC. . . perish the thought.
"I like to go to the Dollar Stores. You don't have to dress up and shit like when you are going to Wal*Mart".......
I heard that quote somewhere on a video . . . gal saying something about getting dressed up to go to Wal-Mart. Crowd in Kansas yesterday had obviously not got the memo.
Off to Lawrence to buy my pieces of the old floor from arguably the most famous basketball venue in the world!
I know a walmart general manager very well, And whats going to happen is walmart is going to drive all the business away, He told me that when the are done with building as many big box stores as they can they will be moving into the private sector, And are going to start putting there own gas stations all over the neighborhoods. I used to work for maverick country store and it will wipe them out and circle k stores and am pm stores as well....Do not under estimate WAL MART!!
South Carolina had their tax free day (maybe it was longer?) on Black Friday and it included guns and ammo -- "ya'll load up" -- naturally I was a plane ride away by the time it all broke loose.
I won't go to Wal-Mart except to buy ammo. The closest Wal-Mart to me always has S&W .40 and .223 available.
Iowa has a free tax day at the beginning of the school year. Nothing but an economic lie to get tons of shoppers in the stores to buy "school stuff only",up to $100.00 per item,tax free. Sure,every little bit helps, but really, what are you going to do with that $6.00 per hundred that you saved on stuff your kids could probably do just as well with out.....
Time to leave for work........No wait, it's Sunday..........but the snow plows have gone by twice in the last 30 minutes...sparks a flying and the lite dusting of snow just laying undisturbed ......WTF? I guess it's cheaper to waste manpower and resources than to have a traffic accident lawsuit for NOT plowing a road that DOESN"T NEED to be plowed. This happens all Winter long and I will never understand the reasoning that society at large,has caused.
I heard a story on NPR the other day. A fellow was very proud that he had led the fight to prevent a Walmart from opening in his 'hood, where it would have been in a former industrial park. He didn't want it near him because of traffic & all those annoying people. He won. No Walmart.
Now he complains about the metal recycling operation that moved into the empty space in the industrial park. Loud noises, fires & explosions that shake the house.
Woolworth's was on every corner once upon a time But at least they didn't PREY upon their suppliers for unreasonable cost reductions.Wal-Mart LOVES Chinese labor.
Society has lost touch with courtesy. Society has become solely about the bottom line. Society has lost it's ability to help out it's fellow citizenry.
It seems to me that the manager of the Wal mart ( or any other outlet ) could avoid the trampling issue, by sending several employees out about 20 minutes before opening with a bull horn, as it is with children set up rope coridor, line up for entry or be removed from the property. Deputy being on site should quell any issues with miscreants.
children when I was in school were typicaly instructed to line up for say lunch, the water fountain, and post fire drill prior to entry back into the school building.