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     No_rice |
have any of you that have had the recall done noticed that since the fuel line has been moved to the rear passenger peg it leaks more? i just got it done a few days ago and everytime i park it since then i get a good puddle of fuel right below the over flow line. now the first thing someone is goin going to say is i probably have to much fuel in it. nope.. i was at half a tank when the recall was done. now my low fuel light is on and it is still doing it. one thing i think i might try is putting the inner airbox lid back on. i have it off, so the line probably has fallen down under there a bit and i suppose the fuel doesnt have to climb up hill to much to get out of the tank in the over flow line. the thing is the tank is damn near empty so it shouldnt be getting that much in there anyway. its not like its hot here the highest its been is mid 60's the first day it was in the 30's so heating the fuel to much shouldnt be the cause. guess i wondered if anyone else is having that happen. if i dont get it to stop by putting the inner airbox lid back on it is going to make it alot harder to relocate the hose again since i normally dont have the passenger pegs on. i am sure my wheelies are sloshing the fuel around some but on an empty tank i shouldnt have a 4 inch puddle of fuel beside my bike! | ||
| Slypiranna |
If it was dumping on your hot muff before, there wouldn't be a puddle due to evaporation. Have it checked out at the dealer if there is a concern. Could be a defective vent assembly that didn't show due to the first paragraph? | ||
| Bman12r |
Haven't had the newest recall done yet, but I would be concerned about that much fuel under my bike. Mine just puts out a few drops on to the hot exhaust near the front of the motor. No worries! | ||
| Jpfive |
'Yes' to your question. I never saw fuel on the ground after riding before the recall. My conclusion was the same as Slyp's - the fuel found the muffler before. I'd just as soon have it that way again. Jack | ||
| Bobup |
I now smell fuel when I come to any stop....I'ld guess 80% of the time...engine needs to be at operating temp. | ||
| Spectrum |
The longer hose means the vapors condense now where as they hit the air as vapor before. Result less fuel smell at the expense of a few drop of liquid on the ground. | ||
| Cringblast |
My 09 1125CR gas drips from vent hose after riden. NO SMOKING WITHIN 50FT At Daytona all the demo 1125's were doing the same thing !!! R & CR C. | ||
| No_rice |
i did think of the fact that it dripped onto the pipe. once in awhile you could see the fuel sit there if the pipe had cooled enough. i am just amazed that so much was coming out when its not even hot. i mean the fans were actually turning off so it must be cool enough. and i figured having so much farther to travel now that it would drain back into the tank instead of all the way to the end. i havent put the inner lid back on to repositioned the line yet though. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
The new fuel line vent is a BAD thing. I can't believe that they rerouted the line to drip on the swingarm and eventually onto the belt. When I saw the fuel on my swingarm, I put it back to the way it was. I never thought I would like the charcoal canister, but on the 25r I sure do. | ||
| Unibear12r |
So your dealer rerouted your vent too Fresno? They are not supposed to do that part of the recall here in California. | ||
| Slypiranna |
Any of you Cali owners have a pic to post on the factory charcoal canister? It's not a bad idea for 49 state models to consider? I'm curious... | ||
| Fresnobuell |
So your dealer rerouted your vent too Fresno? They are not supposed to do that part of the recall here in California. Yeah, I figured that somehow BMC and my dealer got their wires crossed. I had NEVER smelled fuel while I was riding (and rarely when stopped)--even in the heat of summer. However, I smelled gas shortly after I left the dealership (in cool weather.) Then when I got home and saw the fuel dripping on the swingarm (and the remnants of fuel from the tech ride earlier), I had to investigate what exactly was done. I'll work on the pic, but basically it sits under the seat. The vent hose from the tank runs into the canister (I think this hose vents to the atmosphere in the 49 state bikes). There is an exit hose that runs from the canister to an intake recovery where it gets combusted while riding. The other end of the canister has an open nozzle}, where fumes vent when stopped I assume. | ||
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| Slypiranna |
I can't believe this! Thanks for the photos Fresnobuell!  This is the first California spec part that I'll soon be adding to a 49 state 11!...and YES, "ours" dumped from the factory, straight down onto the muff, just forward of the clutch basket area...right with the coolant overflow.  If routed back to the airbox, hmmm, a minor enrichment perhaps?!!!! (Nah, CL will fight it unless the o2's are disabled...hmmm!  ) I like it and thanks to Cali EPA, we have another option to test! (FOR OFF ROAD/RACING/TESTING PURPOSES ONLY...MIND YOU! NOT RECOMMENDED, JUST TESTING 4 THE BETTER OF THE CAUSE! SUCKS WE GOTTA COVER THY TAIL-FIN!)  ...and second edit...jeez... What a pool of great information being shared by great folks in all parts of the world! Thanks again Fres!  (Message edited by slypiranna on November 04, 2008) (Message edited by slypiranna on November 04, 2008) | ||
| White79bu |
My 08 1125r is doing the same thing. It never was much of a problem before. I think this winter I am going to have to reroute it. Plus I have to remove the passenger pegs for track days(I have huge feet). So the vent hose won't work for me in it's current location. | ||
| Ccryder |
Hmm, mine doesn't drip on the swingarm or belt? My vent tube is routed through a hole they drilled in the end of the foot peg bracket. How was your's routed? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
right with the coolant overflow. Ahhh...I have been wondering where exactly it was when everyone was saying it was dumping on the exhaust. That makes sense that it is bundled with the coolant overflow tube. One easy way to try out the canister trick would be to just hook up the tank vent tube straight into it and don't worry about the exit tube (or plug it to force the fumes to travel across the charcoal in the can.) Remember the other end has about dime sized opening where fumes vent when the bike is stopped (I assume). I have found the can to be effective when stopped even in the extreme heat of the Central Valley in CA--and with the bike running hot before the latest flash. Even when the fumes were noticeable, it was never bothersome or overwhelming. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Hmm, mine doesn't drip on the swingarm or belt? My vent tube is routed through a hole they drilled in the end of the foot peg bracket. How was your's routed? I have the passenger pegs removed, so they had to cut the line short and run the line to the base where the Passenger peg brackets attach to the bike. I am glad that those with the passenger pegs can avoid gas dripping on the bike. | ||
| Hayabusa |
So, I am supposed to get the recall done on Thursday...should I abort the vent hose reroute? Thoughts? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
So, I am supposed to get the recall done on Thursday...should I abort the vent hose reroute? Thoughts? Do you have an issue with the fuel smell? If not, I would probably bypass the recall. If you do, you may want to get it done and ask them not to drill your passenger beg bracket. That way you could go back to the original setup if you wish. If you like the new setup, then have them drill and make it permanent. | ||
| Slypiranna |
Based upon archives and the most current posts, I can't see this going in a negative way at all. The "California Can" just might prove in the right direction. I AM going to test this one! After all, I'd rather be burning "it" in the cylinders then evaporating and/or vaporizing "it" to atmosphere upon a mid temp muff. An added plus...I might even be able to light up a winston in the garage!  ...who am I kidding...I smoke around anything. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Sly, Check out your service manual, page 4-25. If all bikes were made with the vacuum fitting on the throttle body, you might be able to get the complete system working. | ||
| Slypiranna |
Fresnobuell, I remember questioning THAT fitting...LONG ago! Back in early Feb...I thought this MIGHT be used for future endevours/models...never thought of Californication!!!!!!!!  Yup, she's there, w/a plug on er! Good times folks! Good times, indeed! | ||
| Redscuell |
OK, OK, now I want a cannister, too. Where can I get one by mail-order 'cause I doubt my Aussie dealer's going to be set up for CA emissions parts? | ||
| Unibear12r |
My dealer did mine too. I just expected they'd know not to do it here. I've still got my rear pegs so there was no fuel on the bike but I was surprised to see a small spot on the driveway and that's how I found out. I called the dealer up and asked them to call BMC to be sure before C.A.R.B. would find out and crawl up somebody's backside. My dealer said that it actually says in the paperwork not to do it in Cali but it's in the small print on page seven and they didn't see it until BMC pointed it out to them!  It was easy for me to hook it back the right way as they left all the parts on the bike. I like it with the cannister much better. Just don't over fill the tank and things are good. Sly, according to all I've heard the cannister system does not effect performance at all other than to add a small amount of weight. |
