| Author | Message | ||
     Twitchy |
Does anyone know if the new Buell forks and rims are compatible with the older models? 2002 X1 | ||
| Preybird1 |
I dont know but there was one on ebay 2 days ago with the exact mod you are talking about. It looked bad the xb wheels where chrome and it looked like he changed the bottom of the forks to use the xb wheels, There was a different brake caliper bracket. It was longer and very solid. It looked custom made and come to think of it i didn't even look at the rear mounting. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
To accommodate the brakes you have to switch out the whole front end, the back wheel needs a different spacer to make it fit. Those that have done the mod here have switched out the triple clamps too as they are a different size than your tuber's clamps. Not sure how the instruments mount up. Browse the knowledge vault, try some keyword searches there's a couple people who have done it here, Joesbuell's is the most recent and he did a whole lot more than just swap wheels and forks. The look is killer. | ||
| Farrisbueller |
The way I understand it, the 09 forks will slide right into the tuber trees, the rest is spacing on the back. | ||
| Farrisbueller |
Sorry, 03, not 09. The other years taper. | ||
| Bandm |
Pictures here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 398094.html?1223173008 Try contacting Railboy. | ||
| Texastechx1 |
FarrisBueller is right, the 03 XB forks will slide right into your triple trees, any other year xb and you will have to swap the trees from the xb as well and I've read on here that it kills the handling (not sure though). you will also need to get the matching m/c to match the new front caliper you will be using. The rear wheel needs a few custom spacers to accomidate the bigger wheel bearings and I think you can use the xb rear rotor with you stock caliper. the only thing is that you will have the change the front pulley to get your gearing back to stock. the xb rear sproket is alot bigger than our sprokets. Do a google search using key words like "xb wheels on tuber", you will find a few write ups on what is nessicary. http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:www.b adweatherbikers.com Nick, 02 X1 | ||
| Puddlepirate |
I may be wrong, but I believe that the 03 and 04 fork legs are still 54mm. They should bolt right into the tuber trees. Hal's has the bearing spacers for the rear wheels. I think they're about $30 each (left/right). | ||
| Twitchy |
Thanks for the info guys. It looks like way too much work just to be able to switch wheels. Texas-great way to search the site. I had no idea about that. | ||
| Guell |
Yeah, i was going to do the swap, but it was getting too expensive for something that wasnt gaining me much. I figure its best to sell off what i have and put some nice pads and a ebc rotor up front. | ||
| Bad_karma |
Rich does the 03/04 XB forks have the preload adjustment on them? Thanks Joe | ||
| Texastechx1 |
Yeah, i was going to do the swap, but it was getting too expensive for something that wasnt gaining me much. Ya, same here. I saw that black X1 a while back that was for sale that had the swap... looked DAMN good! but when you add it all up, might as well trade up to a nice used XB and treat yourself to all the other great benifits of the XB bikes. To each their own i suppose... Nick | ||
| Joesbuell |
"might as well trade up to a nice used XB and treat yourself to all the other great benifits of the XB bikes." Like what! rotating engine to remove spark plugs! splitting cases to remove transmission! Constant fuelling problems etc, etc.... you are joking right  | ||
| Ratbuell |
I've been considering it for my S1W - but the cable-drive speedo would be hard/impossible to keep. I'll have to check out some links... | ||
| Puddlepirate |
Joe, Yep. They have the preload adjusters on them as well. They have all of the same adjustments that the newer style XB forks have, they're just the smaller size. When I was doing my fork swap, I had a set of Tuber triples with the cast in handlebar clamp, but decided not to use them because the tubes sit slightly more forward, and would've given me less ground clearance. | ||
| Bad_karma |
Thanks Rich Good information, I'm leaning that way for my S1W. Joe | ||
| Texastechx1 |
Like what! rotating engine to remove spark plugs! splitting cases to remove transmission! Constant fuelling problems etc, etc.... you are joking right I know they are harder to work on, thats a given. You have to give up some of the easy wreching capabilities of our bikes if you want to ADVANCE to newer technology. Don't get me wrong, I absolutly LOVE my X1, and would never trade it for an XB. But if you really want ALL that new tech in a buell... dont spend a shit ton of money to adapt it, just go buy a new one. Other than the 1125r, what fueling problems? any performance or fueling problems on XBs that I'VE heard of have been newbie-owner-wreching-error. Nick (Message edited by Texastechx1 on October 25, 2008) | ||
| Guell |
Only fueling problems i know of are in the 08's. You also dont have to rotate down the engine to do the spark plugs. Sure its a lot harder but its also a much more advanced bike. | ||
| Oldog |
Matt: Search Josebuell for his conversion threads His tuber is an s3 that is fully set up with XB wheels and suspension, its one sweet piece of work. also the grounds for his comment. | ||
| Oldog |
I have no first hand knowledge of any issues with the '08 efi, the 02' makes me scratch my head from time to time. | ||
| Joesbuell |
Ahh you guys stir easy | ||
| Oldog |
Ahh you guys stir easy I guess so  Matt was my co Pilot on a recovery mission "You are not here" was the operative phrase I don't know if he saw the threads where you did your suspension & rework or not }BTW that was '01 ddfi | ||
| Guell |
Jim, ive talked with jodie a few times about the conversion, i have the front end sitting in my garage. I just dont know if i want to commit to it right now as its getting more expensive than i thought it would be | ||
| Puddlepirate |
Guell, what parts are you lacking right now? | ||
| Guell |
I have a front rim, all i really need is the brake rotor and a new neck stem machined up, And a new speedometer system, since mine is cable driven. | ||
| Phelan |
Guell, Find some solidmount sportster trees with a stem or a tuber stem and have it pressed into the XB trees. Simple enough. Or for that matter, most big twin stems will fit as well. | ||
| Guell |
Never thought about that, ill look into it, i wouldnt mind taking the one out of my m2 trees. I dont know if the conversion is worth it though, how much better is it going to be compared to x1 front forks, which i also have sitting in my garage. I could sell off everything and put a ebc front brake rotor, and lyndall pads with the x1 front end for cheaper i think. (Message edited by Guell on October 26, 2008) | ||
| Joesbuell |
The thickness of the bottom XB triple won't allow such an easy press out press in solution otherwise I would have done just that! The XB lower triple is thicker, Which means it throws every thing out as in where the bearings mate up if you can understand what I'm getting at...If you don't believe me try it your self  | ||
| Puddlepirate |
When I did my fork swap, I measured the XB lower triple as 1 1/4" thick where it is in contact with the stem. I initially used an S1W stem, which is roughly 8 7/8" long. I didn't have any issues with the lower bearings. What issues did you have Joe? I will be replacing it with the one from an '01 Sportster, which measures 9 1/4" long. I can't speak for the tuber steering neck, but an XL stem may work for you. (Message edited by puddlepirate on October 26, 2008) | ||
| Phelan |
wow, my apologies. I didn't realize there was that much difference between the Buell and the Sportster necks. The S2 neck and triples worked fine on my '03 1200S. |
