| Author | Message | ||
     Ochoa0042 |
just a random thought how fast do you think an XB bike can go on a straight head-on crash, with a wall lets say, till the steering head/frame is crushed? | ||
| Barnyard |
now I understand the glass is half empty My random thought | ||
| Jos51700 |
The steering head will break out of the frame without rupturing the fuel tank, if that's what you're asking. However, every direct front-end impact on an XB that I have seen broke the tripletrees first. (One was 60+mph.). I think it'd be an impact so severe that everything else busts off, and the frame itself makes an impact, before the frame sees a real "collapse" type of failure. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
now I understand the glass is half empty huh?  well my thought is.... compared to other motorcycle frames, the buell frame is extremely beefy and strong as hell. Super thick, very ridged, architecturally sound in a sense. Compared to my last bike....or even any of todays spankin new sportbikes i should add....  ....their frames are getting lighter and lighter, smaller and smaller, cost saving and weight pinching as much as possible. I bet a same model bike of today is NoWay near as strong of a frame as it was say 7years ago. So prolly a  R6 couldn't last a 10mph fender bender So the buell frame can definately withstand a big crunch at a higher speed; but that stated above, are you sure that the tripple tree will break first? Is that an intentional engineering design? | ||
| Froggy |
Yes, like a crumple zone  As you know first hand, the bikes are next to invincible, you can walk away from most wrecks with $50 in damage max. I still don't know how you put a hole in 3 primary covers.... but if they are giving you a bulk discount I will buy one off you  | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
Yes, like a crumple zone well you're no engineer  , and I dont think it says anything in the manual about crumple zones  ..... joking btw  Anyone have any picks of anything totaled???  I was searching on ebay for parts one day, and saw a pretty bad 12R parting out  looked like the thin-side of the frame was gutted & folded like origami.... | ||
| Old_man |
What difference does it make? If you crash into something that hard you're going over the bars anyway - until your body hits something solid. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
...and hopefully that will never happen to anyone.... but has it happened to anyone here? how could you know about the crush zone unless there's proof? | ||
| Jos51700 |
"how could you know about the crush zone unless there's proof?" They actually addressed it during the XB technical school. That and the intentional design feature that the steering head will break off the frame without rupturing the fuel cell. There were several incidents of Jap bike frame failures under normal riding conditions, a couple of years ago. It seems to me that the Japanese are more interested in beating eachother than performing proper R+D, so I could see an issue like that arising. I know every manufacturer is gonna have recalls, but, like, wow. These aren't little things like a bad batch of turn signal flashers.... http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08548. html http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults /mcn/2008/June/9-15/june0908Kawasaki-ZZR1400-frame -recall/?&R=EPI-100985 http://www.1tail.com/sa/news/s/default.htm?g=%7B22 F6D1DF-72CF-4A36-B9F1-1E87EFDF1809%7D http://www.automotix.net/autorepair/recalls/8933-r ecall/ These are scary recalls on very fast bikes (well, except for that KLX140) I'll take a Buell frame over that any day! | ||
| New12r |
Well I have hit head on into a drain under a driveway at 70mph and the forks bent, the triple broke and a number of other parts, but the frame is now on another bike and was still very usable. I will have to dig up the pics, dont think I have any on my current hard drives. | ||
| New12r |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=37&post=805376#POST805376 | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
wow, thats insane, good design.... what's with the two different colored rims? off topic I was talking on a stunt forum about the powers cage.... but a few people said that the cage breaks the motor mounts and the 'jug'.... what do they mean by jug? |
