| Author | Message | ||
     Fresnobuell |
My front has bounced around significantly. This morning it was 93.0--most of the time it has been in the low 80s. I can't figure it out. How much is a front 02 sensor? | ||
| Chameleon |
Xb9: Obviously that's Excel, but how have you acquired that data? Race computer & included software or something else? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Front o2 sensor $49.99. P0277.5aa | ||
| Josh_ |
So where's the threads of praise thanking Buell for releasing a free kickass upgrade? Lots and lots of thread slamming Buell for every little perceived slight, but am I the only one willing to buy a beer for the powertrain/ECM guys? I can't afford to buy everyone a beer! | ||
| Ccryder |
Josh: That thread has already fallen off the "radar screen": http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/398799.html?1222455043 Neil S. | ||
| Xb9 |
Chameleon, Yes that is excel. No I did not use the factory race tuner, or any other commercially available software. The tools are readily available, you just have to use some ingenuity. If I let the cat out of the bag I'm afraid of the possibility it may become circumvented. I sent you a PM | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Dave, sent you a PM. | ||
| Josh_ |
Ha! Doesn't really stack up against the pissing and moaning does it? Wonder how I missed that thread?  | ||
| Ccryder |
Tiny tot Buell Logo clothes with the original Pegasus, I love it!! | ||
| Bigblock |
Got mine done, runs smoother, and cooler, and gets noticeably better mileage. Exact figures I don't have yet, I haven 't burned a tankful yet, but my average, which I reset when I rode off from the dealer, is up 5 mpg, and I really beat it on the long way home. The average has always been very close to doing the math when filling. | ||
| Trw |
Mine runs exactly the same after the reflash and still shows the U0001 Comm error that it did before. Shouldn't the ECM reset with the new re-flash? I do have the solenoid removed with the Buell resistor plug that is it. The repair order says I received recall flash B-081, B-079, is this the new flash? | ||
| Spectrum |
Several here have reported that the flash did not take the first time even though Digital Tech II reported it successful. The print out confirmed this showing M2HUS02Y before and M2HUS02Y after. Knowing this I checked my AFV's after they reflashed it and they had not reset. The tech did not provide a print out confirm the flash even though I had asked for it. I asked the service manager to take it back and recheck and sure enough, it still had the M2HUS02Y calibration. The second time it took. The gave me the print out confirming M2HUS02Y before and M3HUS03Z after. I also checked the AFV's and this time they had reset. | ||
| Ccryder |
Good information Bryan. | ||
| Xb9 |
Root cause of all the drivability and heat issues: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=290431&post=1278378#POST1278378 Engine parameter conversion error from metric to US. (Rotax to Buell) read the article (Message edited by xb9 on October 10, 2008) | ||
| Thurstonbuell |
Xb9, And how many argued that so many of us either didn't know how to ride , lugging the motor or just out of our minds ! We'll leave the out of my mind thing out of this . | ||
| Ccryder |
Darn it, we should have gone metric the last we had the chance in 196X. The Mars lander would not have crashed, my Buell would have run great (from the start), the stock market would not be free-falling, yep I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night and I know it all ;+} Time2Work | ||
| Bigblock |
On further riding, I would say my mpg has improved about by 4 in mixed riding, the bike itself is noticeably cooler to the touch, the frame doesn't get hot at all anymore. It seems slightly less snatchy at low rpms, and it seems down about 10 horsepower. It doesn't rev near as good as it used to, it will barely pull to 10,000 in third, and doesn't yank the front in second gear anymore. I am quite dissapointed, I hope I have just got a bad tank of gas, but my bike has never felt this sluggish. | ||
| Bigblock |
It seems to run pretty good in the part throttle ranges, but at full throttle, especially over 5,000 rpm, it just doesn't come on like it used to. Yes, I checked my throttle action, it is smooth and not binding, and I get full throttle. | ||
| Smoke |
bigblock, pull your air filter off and verify that the butterfly plates are full open at full throttle. mine came back from the shop feeling sluggish a while back and somehow the solenoid cable was not letting the throttle plates open fully. disconnected solenoid-no more problem. tim | ||
| Bigblock |
Yessir, I checked that. I also charged the battery, and that seemed to help a bit. I may also have a tank of less than stellar gas, I am not certain, I hope for my next tankful to be from a better station. My battery never shows more than 11.9 volts on the diagnostic mode. Even if I charge it, while in diag mode it will show about 12.4 max on the charger, and immediately after pulling the charger, it drops down to 11.9 volts literally in a matter of seconds, and will drop to 11.7 , even .6, in like 30 seconds or less. I suspect a bad cell in the battery, but my dealer isn't being so easily convinced. Also, I let an old friend ride my bike today, and he has ridden several 1125s, pre and post flash, and he claims my bike runs as good as or better than the best running ones he has been on, so maybe I don't have too much to complain about?... He did say that everyone is reporting to him going from about 31 mpg, which I was getting, to about 40 or better, and I only seem to be getting about 34 to 35 mpg, another tank or two will tell, as I will admit to thoroughly thrashing her since getting her back. She sure does run WAY cooler, no more hot foot or hot frame, not even close. | ||
| Smoke |
cool!! tim | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I believe that 40 mpg in mixed riding is very optimistic (maybe 40 on the freeway?.) Maybe people are wanting the mpg to be so much better that they tend to embellish it a bit? I dunno. I believe 35 in mixed riding is about right. Of course, it depends largely on riding style too. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
My running average is 37, 75% city and twisties, 25% interstate. | ||
| Eaton_corners |
Maybe we can blame ethanol. I can't tell any difference in power, but my MPG is way better. | ||
| Jpfive |
Fresno, I am getting a bit over 40 in local riding since the flash. My average, pre flash, was 34.5 MPG, over 6636 miles. In the 775 miles since the last flash, I have averaged 38.1 MPG. This includes local riding, and over 500 miles of spirited mountain riding. Since the flash my high tank has been 42.7 MPG, my low 33.3 (Deal's Gap area of NC/TN). Jack FWIW, my AFV's remained constant again during my riding in the mountains. | ||
| Xbswede |
I averaged 41 MPG over a 640 Mile weekend trip with the new flash. This included elevation changes from Sea level to 5000 feet. | ||
| Smoke4ndmears |
is there any other way save getting a direct printout from the dealer to verify the ecu has been properly updated? when i picked my bike up the salesman said service had a hard time getting the flash to take and for the bike to idle, and though i never had the bike pre-flash it does seem like it idles rough and is quite hot around my legs and feet. | ||
| Redscuell |
For perspective we have to keep going back to what Buell claims for MPG on its website. For the benefit of you Yanks the link is http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes/sportbike/1125R/s pecifications.asp (as opposed to us Yanks living in Oz; here we get our own specs link that makes no MPG claims at all). There the claimed Fuel Economy is: Urban 39 MPG 6.0 L / 100KM Highway 53 MPG 4.4 L / 100KM Given how generally impressed 1125r owners seem to be with Buell as a company, I think then that we're entitled to take Buell at its word on MPG, too. | ||
| Xbswede |
Its probably accurate based on their test. Given the right rider weight, weather condition and a steady hand at 55 MPH you might see those numbers. I think I could see around 50 MPG if I cruise at 50 - 55 MPH. Which I am never able to do. I have found that at 65 MPH I can get 45-46 MPG. At 70- 75 MPH I get 43 MPG, at 80 MPH it drops down to 41 MPG, at 85 MPH I get 37-39. Any faster it drops down to 31-34 MPG. These are just approximate averages based on 600 miles of riding straight boring freeways this weekend. | ||
| Redscuell |
So you Yanks have finally lowered your highway speed limits ("at 55 MPH you might see those numbers") from 65? Poor bastards, here in Oz we still get to do 100-110 kph, which is 62-68 mph by the old math. But seriously, to think otherwise would be to recall that old adage, "figures don't lie, but liars figure", because Buell's "53 mpg highway" darned well better include 65-70 mph, IMHO! |
