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Dr_greg
| Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 06:58 pm: |
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Well, when I finally got access to the rear plug hole, its threads are badly damaged; the spark plug will slide into the hole. So it looks like Heli-Coil (or the equivalent) time. I'll start removing the rear head. At least the Mechanical Engineering Department at my university just hired a new prototype machinist (who's an ex-dirtbike racer!) and he'll help me out if needed. Sigh. Can't imagine why it happened. I'm very careful with the rear plug; use plastic tubing to screw it in most of the way, then tighten. Oh well, looks like my camping trip next Thurs-Sat is in jeopardy... This is the first failure I've had in 54K miles that upsets me. Not very happy right now. My Uly evangelism may take a hit. |
Xbimmer
| Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 07:29 pm: |
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Sorry about the timing, but at least you'll know the job will be done right. You might check into Teeps' suggestion about Time-serts, I was on their site this a.m. and I'm sold over helicoiling in the future. http://www.timesert.com/ Good luck, keep us informed! |
Rwven
| Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 07:29 pm: |
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Dr Greg, You might want to check the front one also, it has had the plug replaced the same number of times as the rear. Did you use anti-sieze compound on the plugs when you replaced them? Or is that even a good idea? |
Rotorhead
| Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 10:56 pm: |
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I saw these http://www.frozenhorsepower.com/cgi-bin/technology .aspx?TypeId=mc while on a trip up at a shop in Williams AZ. Sales man was doing the sales thing but maybe with the "ease" of getting to our rear plug a higher quality plug may be in order? Anyone hear of these or if they work better or worth the money? |
Thetable
| Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 11:55 pm: |
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I would have to seriously consider key-locking inserts before I even thought about helicoils or anything of the like. The Key locking inserts are pricey, but they are the only thing I know of that is permanent. |
Lost_in_ohio
| Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 02:18 pm: |
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Sooooo, was the failure gradual or catastrophic? Just curious and adding to my personal knowledge. |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 02:51 pm: |
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Catastrophic, the thing just popped out! |
Dr_greg
| Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 03:20 pm: |
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That's for sure. Absolutely no warning of any kind. One second fine, the next second BAP-BAP-BAP and no power. Just like that. I've always taken great care threading the rear plug, so I'm more than a little ticked off. Plus I had a camping trip scheduled for Thurs-Sat (our Fall Break - otherwise I never have time off in the fall). Oh, well, glad it didn't happen in the boonies. I've got the rear head off; I'll probably do a thread repair on both heads just for the heck of it. Not a happy camper (um, no pun intended, I think). |
Etennuly
| Posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 - 08:51 pm: |
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Something I have been wondering about the plugs and head. There are plugs out there that are of the same heat ranges and of the same type, only they are of a larger diameter. What about drilling and tapping to a larger thread size(after finding the right plug first, of course)? |
Red_chili
| Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 10:32 am: |
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Did you use anti-sieze compound on the plugs when you replaced them? Or is that even a good idea? That is ALWAYS a good idea when threading steel into aluminum. |
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